The Politics on Telangana – I
by Krishnarjun on 05 Dec 2013 8 Comments

Telugus are at a cross roads: the division of the first linguistic state is staring them in the face. What could be the consequences of a separate Telangana on the Telugu people and India at large? To understand, we must look at the history of Telugus and the politics in present Andhra Pradesh.

 

The Andhras were mentioned in Mahabharata, Aitareya Brahmana, Puranas, Bauddha and Jaina works. The colonial-inspired official history interprets these literary references as the Aryanisation of Andhra country with people from the north migrating to the south and mixing with natives. The Aitareya Brahmana considers the Andhras, Pundras, Sabaras, and Mutibas as descendants of Vishwamitra’s fifty sons, condemned by his curse. The Mahabharata considers them as created by Vasista from his divine cow to fight Vishwamitra. Not much is recorded about Andhra country prior to the Mauryan Empire. During the Mauryan period, the Andhras and Kalingas were considered powerful regional forces. According to Megasthenes, Andhras possessed numerous villages, thirty fortified towns, an army of 100000 infantry, 2000 cavalry and 1000 elephants.

 

The edicts of Ashoka in Brahmi script at Erragudi, Rajulamandagiri, Amravati and Kottam,  reveal Mauryan administration in Andhra. The Bhattiprolu inscription proves the big influence of Buddhism in the area around 200 BC. After Mauryan influence weakened, the Satvahanas with their capital at Dharanikota (modern Amravati) in the present coastal district of Guntur ruled the whole of the Deccan. The empire of the great Gautamiputra Satakarni extended from Rajasthan to Cuddalore in Tamil Nadu and from Rishikulya in Orissa to Vaijayanthi in Karnataka. The Satvahanas ruled close to 450 years (271 BC – 174 AD).

 

After the mighty Satavahanas, parts of Andhra country were ruled by Ikshvakus, Pallavas, Vishnukundins; the Chalukyas of Badami under Pulakesin II captured the Deccan. A separate eastern Chalukyan line was established with his brother, Kubja Vishnuvardhana, as Viceroy to Vengi. The eastern Chalukyas ruled coastal Andhra from Vengi in present West Godavari district for 500 years, starting from first quarter of the seventh century.

 

The western Chalukyas from Badami were succeeded by the Rashtrakutas in 8th century, who in turn were replaced by the western Chalukyas of Kalyani who ruled between the 10th and 12th centuries. The Andhra country was shared between western Chalukyas, eastern Chalukyas, Rashtrakutas and Cholas between the 7th and 11th centuries. The eastern Chalukyan king from Vengi Rajendra Chalukya, related to Cholas by marital alliance, assumed the title of Kulatunga Chola and ruled from Kanchi following the death of Adhirajendra. Thus the eastern Chalukyas became Chalukya-Cholas.

 

After the decline of the eastern Chalukya-Cholas and western Chalukyas, the whole Andhra country was ruled by local mandalika chiefs. From this confusion emerged the Kakatiyas in the western part and Velanati Chodas in the eastern part of Andhra country. With the decline of Velanati Chodas, the Kakatiyas with their capital from Orugallu (Warangal in present Telangana region) united the entire Andhra country; they ruled between 1083 to 1323 AD; their capital was referred as “Andhra nagari”, city of Andhras.

 

In 1303 AD, during the reign of Kakatiya king Prataparudra, Alauddin Khilji invaded the realm but was defeated. In 1309 AD he sent his notorious general Malik Kafur; a fierce battle raged for months and ultimately Prataparudra had to surrender to prevent atrocities on the citizens in the outer fort. Prataparudra again declared his independence in 1320 AD. The Kakatiya Empire was invaded again, this time by Muhammad Bin Tughlak; after several months of fierce fighting, Tughlaq’s army ravaged Warangal and captured Prataparudra. The booty included Samanthaka Mani, better known as the Kohinoor diamond. Prataparudra died on the banks of Narmada while being taken to Delhi.

 

After Prataparudra’s death, the atrocities by Tughlak’s army prompted two chieftains from coastal Andhra, Musunuri Prolaya nayaka and Musunuri Kapaya nayaka, to lead a confederation of local chiefs to liberate Andhra country. The copper plate grant of Musunuri Prolaya Nayaka describes the atrocities of the invading armies: “In a hundred sinful ways the rich were tortured for the sake of money… temples were destroyed and idols were desecrated…. Merely on beholding the Parasikars (Muslims) some abandoned their lives…. in that great calamity people could not regard their money, wives and other earthly belongings as their own… the wretched Yavanas reveled in drinking wine, eating cow’s flesh… the land of Telinga, tormented by those Yavana warriors who were exactly like Rakshasas, was in flames like a forest surrounded by wild fire”. Under the Kakatiyas, the entire Andhra country was referred as Telangana, not just the present day Telangana region.

 

The rule of the Musunuris was short and the unity of Telugu chiefs fizzled out with the death of Kapaya nayaka. The Velama chiefs ruled eastern Telangana, the Reddy kingdom came up in coastal Andhra, and subsequently the eastern Telangana became part of the Bahamani kingdom.

 

Harihara and Bukka, who were guards of the Kakatiya Prataparudra treasury, founded the Vijayanagar Empire. The Andhras contributed immensely for the growth of the empire. Many Andhra nayaks were in the front ranks of the Vijayanagar army; they became governors of Vijayanagar provinces. Though there are different claims on the origins of the Vijayanagar founders, it is beyond contention that Telugu culture and literature was heavily patronized in Vijayanagar.

 

The scholar king Krishnadevaraya himself authored literary works in Telugu and in many ways professed his love for Telugu language. Vijayanagar (1336 to 1646 AD) not only stopped the march of Islamic armies in the south for over three centuries, it also revived Hindu culture in all its glory. In the battle of Tallikota, the 96-year-old Vijayanagar ruler, Aliya Rama Raya was killed, sabotaged at a crucial moment in the war by Muslim generals in his army. The capital of Vijayanagar, Vidyanagar, was ravaged and savagely looted.

 

Parts of Andhra country were under Vijayanagar, while present day Telangana region was part of the Bahamani Kingdom. After the fall of Vijayanagar, the whole Andhra country was taken over by Qutub Shahs, who lost to Aurangzeb. But following the death of the Mughal Emperor, Nizam Asaf Jahi declared independence in 1720. The whole Andhra country came under the Nizam until he ceded the coastal districts to the French and later to the British (1766). Rayalaseema districts were ceded to the British in 1800. The present Telangana region remained under the Nizam and coastal Andhra and Rayalaseema districts eventually became part of the Madras presidency.

 

There is no historical or literary evidence to suggest that Telangana was ever a distinct entity. The whole Andhra was part of the great Satavahana empire. The Kakatiyas with with roots in present Telangana region united the whole Andhra region. The Kakatiya empire, including current coastal Andhra, was referred as “land of telinga” or Telangana, as mentioned in the copper plate grant of Musunuri Prolaya nayaka. The inscription from Bhatiprolu with Telugu words dates back to 400 BC. Telugu literature developed under the Chalukyas, Kakatiyas and Vijayanagar. In the Nizam state, Telugu region was called “Telangana” to distinguish the region and people from the Kannada and Marathi speaking areas. Though present Telangana region was part of different empires in history, it was never an entity by itself.

 

To be continued…                                                                

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After citing the Mahabharata and other early references to the Andhras it makes no sense to say that "Recorded Andhra history begins with the edicts of Ashoka."

That dismissal of early Hindu sources as lacking historical credibility was a European device meant to control how we viewed ourselves.

I would delete that phrase.
Bhaskar Menon
December 05, 2013
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The author is wrong in many aspects..

1. The term 'Telinga" is derived from the term "Trilinga" - which is the land b/w mountains of three lingas.. these are Kaleswarar, Srirailam, and Draksharama (mountain.. not the town)..
The current telangana region exact fits this description..

2. The author acknowledges that kakatiyas came from telangana, but united whole andhra.. this is a wrong perspective.. a dhesam is NOT determined by rule of kingdoms, but based on the geography and the people who first settled there..

The cholas had once ruled up to kalinga dhesam.. that doesnt mean he united all of these regions.. Through out the history, kings of particular dhesam has always ruled vast areas dominating other dhesams.. but they do not disturb the social fabric of the dhesam they ruled in..

So kakatiyas ruling over whole Present day Andhra, doesnt mean all are ONE Single Entity..


3. The ancient dhesams of bharata varsha is mainly based in River basins and Mountains.. The below map explains all those dhesams based on river basins..

http://wovensouls.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/epicindia.jpg

Telangana is based on Godavari river basin, while andra is mainly based on krishna river basin..

senthil
December 05, 2013
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Bhaskarji


just used "Recorded History" to indicate some archaeological evidence is available to support it, not to discount any available literary references in ancient literature
krishnarjun
December 05, 2013
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Senthil,


Where exactly is Draksharama mountain? we know Draksharama as a town with Shiva temple in east Godavari district of coastal andhra.

Srisailam is on the banks of River krishna in present Rayalaseema region

Kaleswar is near river Godavari in Karimnagar district of present telangana region

Three lingas mentioned by you are located in all three regions of present andhra pradesh. what does it indicate?

andhra consciousness emerged in the region between rivers Godavari and Krishna not just Godavari or Krishna

why Warangal, the capital of Kakatiyas, called andhra Nagari

Trilinga is a geographical term and andhras indicate people in that region as mentioned in Mahabharata and other ancient literature

krishnarjun
December 05, 2013
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Senthil,

If you don't know geography, at least keep your mouth shut and don't expose your ignorance.
Vishal
December 06, 2013
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Senthil,

If you don't know geography, at least keep your mouth shut and don't expose your ignorance.
Vishal
December 06, 2013
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@krishnarjun,

/** Where exactly is Draksharama mountain? we know Draksharama as a town with Shiva temple in east Godavari district of coastal andhra.

Srisailam is on the banks of River krishna in present Rayalaseema region

Kaleswar is near river Godavari in Karimnagar district of present telangana region

Three lingas mentioned by you are located in all three regions of present andhra pradesh. what does it indicate?
**/

if we connect the three places, it forms the present day Telangana region which is earlier called as Tri-Linga Dhesam..

The andhra dhesam referred in itihasas is the coastal andhra, which is the fertile delta region of krishna & godavari river..

To compare an example, in Tamilnadu, the Chola Dhesam is based on the Lower Cauvery basin.. the Upper Cauvery basin forms the Kodagu dhesam.. the Middle cauvery basin forms the karnataka dhesam & chera dhesam..

All our historic dhesams were formed based on our river basins and mountains (both are complementary.. )

This aspect is ignored by most hindu intellectuals, who see everything in terms of religion and race.. (an european perspective)..

/** why Warangal, the capital of Kakatiyas, called andhra Nagari **/

Because the kakatiyas won over the andhra dhesam.. In tamilnadu, there is a title called "Kalinga rayan".. it means, the king had won over the kalinga dhesam, and hence this title..

/** Trilinga is a geographical term and andhras indicate people in that region as mentioned in Mahabharata and other ancient literature
**/

If you look at the MAP carefully, the historic andhra dhesam lies at the coastal belt, while the Trilinga dhesam lies at the upper areas.. Both are different..

Also, the current Uttara Andhra was part of Kalinga Dhesam ( southern orissa, northern andhra & some border districts of chattisgarh forms the original kalinga dhesam)..


Please refer this link on mahabharatha reference to talavahanas, which is mentioned as a region b/w kalinga and andhra.. it is speculated to be the current day telangana..
http://ancientvoice.wikidot.com/telinga


senthil
December 06, 2013
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As usual, senthil is speaking untruth and stubbornly ignoring his being disproven on draksharama (the town which is in coastal andhra and nowhere near telangana, which is why senthil can't tell us where so-called "draksharama mountain" is located--more "oral diarrhea")

Readers can see Senthil’s failure as well as his dishonest tactics on his own blog here:

http://psenthilraja.wordpress.com/2013/11/09/telengana-the-continuing-debate/#comment-13169

And

Here:

http://psenthilraja.wordpress.com/2013/08/15/telengana-the-first-nail-on-coffin-of-colonial-india/#comment-12927

As you can see, he invents crackpot theories, issues pompous challenges, ignores counterevidence, misrepresents his “evidence”, calls people “idiotic” “morons” when cornered, whines about “personal attacks” if retaliation, and complains of moral arrogance when his hypocrisy exposed.

On his own blog he will also employ proxies to use profanity against good faith commenters so he can buy time to come up with false justification (i.e. "draksharama the mountain").


Senthil is propagating lies that “telinga desam” refers to telangana—it refers to ALL Andhra. His own map source admitted it was speculating that there was a separate “telinga” desam distinct from Andhra based on reference to talavahanas. It also gave an alternate map showing so-called “telinga” desam in coastal Andhra itself:

2nd MAP (disproving senthil's telinga-telangana theory--zoom on andhra):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/EpicIndiaCities.jpg


Link by same map author for Senthil’s dubious talavahanas-telinga mahabharata map.

This is why author said talavahanas-telinga connection was “speculative”. Because first map shows telingas in telangana (which senthil uses) but second map by SAME author shows Telinga in coastal Andhra–this shows he had no clue where “speculative” separate telinga desam was. Thus even talavahanas’ location was speculative. Telinga is not telangana--telinga is ALL of Andhra desa.


Senthil did not have guts to answer my “challenge”.
In his blog thread, senthil was deafeningly silent about the proof I gave showing trilinga is the origin of telugu. Telinga itself is merely prakrit version of trilinga from Sanskrit. And Sanskrit sources themselves refer to trilinga desam and telugu language as “Andhra”.

Senthil is now not even providing proof that draksharamam meant was a mountain rather than the modern town (more logical gymnastics). He had scored self goal by thinking draksharamam was in telangana when it is clearly in coastal Andhra—few miles from Bay of Bengal itself.

http://www.templenet.com/Andhra/draksha.html

Instead of embarrassing himself on post after post and comment after comment while issuing ridiculously pompous “challenges”, senthil should do some deep study—not use third rate wiki sources and anecdotal hearsay. He also failed challenge issued by Dr. Rajiva on the Meera Nanda thread as well as on twitter with vyasa2.

Rather than issuing challenges, senthil should talk less and listen more. He is no Rajiv Malhotra (Malhotra himself said senthil has “oral diarrhea”), so senthil should stop acting like an authority when his own obsolete views on jati disqualify him from lecturing on epics.

Without studying Shruti—causing another vijayvaani contributor to laugh, senthil has audacity to lecture us on vedic thought and hindu dharma—all while demanding traditional jatis. Other than Andhra geography, senthil fails ancient Indian geography here when he said Ancient Bharat’s border was Sindh river.:

https://twitter.com/nativethoughts/status/408234418277318656

WRONG. Pushkalavati was built by Bharatiyas and is west of Sindh river. So not only does senthil not know history—he doesn’t know geography either.

Like a propaganda machine, Senthil just repeats same untruths (periodically repackaged) no matter how many times he is disproven.

As dr. rajiva said, it increasingly appears like senthil is an obscurantist acting as a sepoy for anti-hindu interests (probably why senthil himself rejects hindu and sanatana dharma labels—anti-vivekananda outlookindia article said same thing. I guess we know where senthil gets his talking points from…).

Nizam used to employ such obscurantists to divide hindus--no wonder senthil supports new "hyderabad princely state" of owaisis.
nyaya
December 08, 2013
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