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Reduce VIP security and interrogate survivors, please  
Sandhya Jain
01 Dec 2008

While there is no way the sartorially elegant Shivraj Patil could have survived the gory 62-hour blood-and-bullets nightmare that descended upon Mumbai last week, the appointment of P. Chidambaram as Union Home Minister, after a disastrous innings as Finance Minister, hardly inspires confidence. Coupled with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s refusal to accept the resignation of M.K. Narayanan, this suggests that Congress intends to learn nothing from the colossal failure of intelligence, for which the National Security Adviser and Sonia Gandhi-loyalist was critically responsible.


Public confidence in this decision could, however, follow if the Union Cabinet takes a decision to scale down VIP security across the board, beginning with the ruling dispensation in New Delhi. If the Congress-dominated UPA believes national security should continue to be manned by men who should be quartered and hung for letting Mumbai happen, and that public opinion can be doused by the token removal of Shivraj Patil and perhaps Vilasrao Deshmukh while a political oligarchy quietly enhances its personal security, then it is living in a fool’s paradise.


While stock-taking has only just begun, it already appears as if some things are being covered up. In these circumstances, the retention of Narayanan who was invisible during the entire crisis though he was too visible in the hated Indo-US nuclear deal does nothing to inspire confidence. In an atmosphere when media hype persistently reminds us of the Twin Towers tragedy in New York, one can only think of the success of Prince Bandar in escorting all well-connected Saudi youth out of America in the immediate aftermath of 11 September 2001. 


Some things deserve an immediate answer – how many terrorists were there actually; how did they reach their respective destinations inland; and is it possible that “super-terrorists” simply walked out with the real survivors after having utilised the “mercenaries” to the hilt, just as they had murdered the navigators of the boats that brought them to Mumbai?


Current media reports and government sources say that the terrorists came by sea, landing near the Gateway of India or Colaba. This certainly explains the attacks on the sea front hotels like Taj, Oberoi and the Nariman House. But the question remains – how did they get to the CST station, Cama Hospital, and other places inland? Someone must have provided transport and back-up.


By no logic can anyone believe that nine separate sites in a city could be held to ransom by just 10 men. It is particularly difficult to believe that gigantic hotels like the Taj could be ruined and scores of guests killed or injured by just two men (sometimes the figure goes to six). Even two men per floor could not have caused the kind of death and destruction that did happen. A small place like Nariman House, yes, but Taj and Oberoi – I don’t believe it. And if there were six persons at Taj and at least two at Nariman House, that means only two persons destroyed the Oberoi?


Rediff.com has interviewed the doctors who conducted the post-mortems on the dead hostages and terrorists, and it is their expert opinion that a battle of attrition took place over three days at the Oberoi and Taj hotels. The mutilation of the bodies was unlike anything they had seen in their careers in forensics. 


For one, the bodies of the victims bore horrible signs of torture. Now this is understandable if the victims are being tormented by half-human beasts, but it seems strange that two terrorists could simultaneously fight and keep Indian commandos at bay for 62 hours, and also have the time to torture their victims. Yet the doctors were emphatic that:
"It was apparent that most of the dead were tortured. What shocked me were the telltale signs showing clearly how the hostages were executed in cold blood."


To my mind, it seems apparent that the terrorists who kept the NSG commandos engaged and those who tortured and killed the hotel staff and guests were two separate groups
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This suspicion is intensified by the startling revelation that the terrorists also did not meet a clean death. Doctors who conducted the post-mortem said the bodies of the terrorists – especially their faces - were beyond recognition. The security forces identified the bodies as those of terrorists [on TV they said it was because of the presence of weaponry near the bodies]. 


One terrorist was shot through either eye
(i.e., both eyes!!!). As the NSG commandos never got to such close range with the terrorists, and nobody commits suicide by shooting both his own eyes, it follows that the killers were somebody else. Since none of the hotel guests could have the kind of weaponry used in the conflict, this suggests the presence of a mysterious third party, making the terrorists the victims of a classic double-cross – the stuff of spy thrillers. Actually, it reminds one of the convenient murder of the alleged killer of President John F. Kennedy.


Hence it would be entirely in order to closely interrogate each and every guest, especially the foreign guests, before allowing them to leave the country. Without false emotionalism, we should also fingerprint them for the future; who knows what Interpol cooperation may throw up.


Top Russian counter-terrorism expert, Vladimir Klyukin, an Afghan war veteran, opines that the Mumbai attackers were not "ordinary terrorists" and were probably trained by the special operations forces set up in Pakistan by US intelligence prior to the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan. In his view, the nature of the Mumbai events suggests the signature of the 'Green Flag' special operations forces created by the Americans in Pakistan, just a year before the Soviet withdrawal.


Guerrilla operations of the Mumbai kind require at least two-three years of preparatory work with experienced instructors. Raw trainees cannot hold four huge complexes in a city to ransom for so long. The Russian Interfax news agency reported the former KGB veteran as surmising the involvement of at least 50 terrorists, given the geography and sheer scale of the attacks. This seems like a legitimate estimation.


What is more, the only way 9 coordinated attacks can occur simultaneously is by using Global Positioning Systems (GPS) or live maps for communication and control. These are not normally owned by private parties. Initial investigations also suggested that as many as seven terrorists included mostly British-born Pakistanis, and one does hope that these leads are not covered up. The reports also suggested some gunmen were captured, but later media reports highlighted that only one terrorists was caught alive at the railway station. So there is a lot of confusion here that needs to be cleared up. 


Certainly the hints about British involvement, openly asserted by the outspoken Lyndon LaRouche, need investigation.   


Media has been heavily criticized in some quarters for airing visuals of NSG commandos dropping on the hotel roofs from helicopters, and thus giving operational secrets away to the militants watching TV inside. If the criticism is to be valid, however, we will have to accept that the terrorists had more men inside who could be deployed to watch TV and give information which would enable them to react and rebuff the aerial assault. There is no way 2 to 6 terrorists could torture victims sadistically and kill them brutally, watch TV, fight and keep the security forces at bay for 62 hours, and then kill themselves or each other in impossible ways.


The death of terrorists points to a clear double-cross and also the possibility of the involvement of more than one religious denomination. That the terrorists did not prepare for death by carrying potassium cyanide is well known; nor did they simply intend to blow themselves up like the usual suicide bombers. The surviving terrorist has revealed that they were told of an escape plan – and no doubt that plan was used by those who killed their fellow terrorists and walked out free!


This writer has consistently stated that modern, late 20th-21st century jihad is qualitatively different from the medieval jihad in which Muslim armies led by generals or kings ran over much of the world in Europe, north Africa, and Asia. Contemporary jihad is a mercenary tool of Western colonialism, serving a colonial intent with devout slavishness, and this seems borne out by the events of Mumbai.


What remains to be seen, however, is whether or not the Islamic world wakes up to the reality of its own self-enslavement. India on its part has demonstrated that no matter how long it takes to get operational, no matter the cost in terms of live and property, the territory of Bharat Mata will be protected.


It is more than likely that Pakistan was rebuked by its British and American ‘friends’ (read Masters) for agreeing to send the ISI chief to assist in the investigations, and forced to backtrack on a solemn assurance. The teams from Scotland Yard and America, ostensibly coming to assist India in the probe, are more likely trying to ascertain the extent of evidence with India.


It is pertinent that the recovery of a satellite phone from the trawler abandoned with the body of the Gujarati captain revealed that the trawler had been hijacked to Karachi Port, and while there, calls were made even to Australia (where the CIA has a famous outpost!) 
 

Interestingly, General Leonid Ivashov, who was Chief of Staff of the Russian armed forces when the Twin Towers tragedy happened on 11 September 2001, insists that there is no such thing as international terrorism and that “the September 11 attacks were the result of a set-up. What we are seeing is a manipulation by the big powers; this terrorism would not exist without them.” Instead of faking a “world war on terror”, the best way to reduce such attacks is through respect for international law and peaceful cooperation among countries and their citizens 
[http://www.voltairenet.org/article133909.html]


Globalization creates the conditions for the emergence of this terror. It seeks to design a new world geo-strategic map; appropriate the resources of the planet; erase cultural identities; and subjugate States before a global oligarchy. Thus, terrorism, according to Gen. Ivashov, is an instrument of world politics, “a means to install a unipolar world with a sole world headquarters, a pretext to erase national borders and to establish the rule of a new world elite. It is precisely this elite that constitutes the key element of world terrorism, its ideologist and its “godfather”. 


Contemporary international terrorism combines the use of terror by State and non-State political structures to attain political objectives through intimidation of people, psychological and social destabilization, elimination of resistance inside power organizations, and the creation of appropriate conditions for the manipulation of the countries’ policies and the behaviour of people. Media complicity helps. But terrorism is not possible without the support of political and business circles that wield the funds to finance it – and Pakistan is notoriously bankrupt. 


More pertinently, only secret services and their current or retired chiefs have the ability to plan and execute an operation of such complexity and scale. It is secret services that create, finance and control extremist organizations


Is it possible that M.K. Narayanan has been retained by the current pro-Western dispensation to “help” the Western secret services (State actors) in the current mess, to facilitate their long-term agenda by manipulating and misleading the nation and the people? We deserve an answer; we demand to know. 


The author is Editor
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www.vijayvaani.com

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  User Comments:
 
  Good thinking, Sandhya. Your arguments carry the weight. The security agencies should investigate from these angles. Raman  
  Randeep  
  01 Dec 2008  
   
 
  I wish journalist all over the world started using the same arguments you gave here. I wish they start asking the same questions you ask here to all politicians and make people realise that deeper more analysed answers are needed. Peace/ Nadia  
  Nadia  
  01 Dec 2008  
   
 
  Having analysed number of issued and statements ,I have to conclusion the it is NOT in the INTREST of the "usa +the west" that India advances in upliftment i.e socio-economic progress! Few years ago they OPENLY were saying that CHINA and INDIA economic progress will DEMAND for more NATURAL RESOURCES and with available NAUTURAL RESOURCES AND RESERVE it would be a BIG DANGER TO THEIR LIVING STANDARED! Therefore HOW DO YOU FIZZLE OUT the their ECONOMIC PROGRESS! Answer is very very simple: BEFRIEND them and DESTROY them! I see this start of BREAKUP OF INDIA! YES! BREAKUP! Also,one issue that you TOTALLY TO FAIL MENTION: MOSSAD's involvement! Remember Israel is creation of the west and sustained by them! WHOSE INTREST will it act for? Yes,Indians are SMART but NOT VERY SMART!  
  S.Balu  
  01 Dec 2008  
   
 
  You have not mentioned these questions too:- .) Has the ‘terrorist’ attacks in Mumbai, has some connections with the Chattisgarh, Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan and Delhi elections. It is being reported that BJP was to end up third after Congress and BSP in the elections. If BJP were to do so badly in elections, they would have to write off their hopes for a come-back in next Lok Sabha elections. 2.) Is it not well planned and successful operation to kill ATS chief and other police officers investigating the terrorist outfits related to Sangh Parivar and there success in unfolding the truth of multiple bombings in different parts of India ? 3.) CIA / Mossad behind Mumbai attacks , remember WMD , watch this space http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iraq/browse_thread/thread/01edadde85d26d6f 4.) Don`t miss this too http://top-secret-at.blogspot.com/2008/11/mumbai-mossad-angle.html  
  Shabbir Hussain  
  01 Dec 2008  
   
 
  Sandhya, A brilliant analysis of the tragedy. It is well known in the South Block that M.K.Narayanan, Pranab Mukherjee and Shiv Shankar Menon the Malayalee – Bengali triumvirate work for their masters in Tel Aviv and London. Strangely, Langley uses its incestuous partner Mossad in India for reasons known to the masters. Their pseudo and ostentatious loyalty to Mother India is also known. There should be an investigation by the CBI on the lapses of this trio. But my gut feeling is that the old fox Narayanan knows his way around to mislead the public!!  
  M.Kumar  
  02 Dec 2008  
   
 
  Hi Deepak, I realize that you are nothing but a goy or shegetz. Thou shall join the Zionist and become a shabbos goy immediately and be deployed with the godfathers in Zion and become a master of Halakha!! Shalom.  
  Chopra J  
  03 Dec 2008  
   
 
  "What is more, the only way 9 coordinated attacks can occur simultaneously is by using Global Positioning Systems (GPS) or live maps for communication and control. These are not normally owned by private parties." Nonsense. You have to be living under a rock to beleive that.  
  Joe Smith  
  03 Dec 2008  
   
 
  nice work. reasoning is important. opening minds to what is really happening and probably has been happening for some time. the last two commentators are missing the point, distracted by the other press. you are doing investigative conjecturing ... not conspiracy. check out http://www.mtk.net63.net c ya mtk  
  mtk  
  04 Dec 2008  
   
 
  Started out as a fine set of intriguing questions, but soon degenerated into an unbelievable theorization. I would like to add that the names Kasab or Kasav and Abu Dera Ismail Khan are most unusual. They could not be real names.  
  A H Nayyar  
  05 Dec 2008  
   
 
  Excellent article Sandya. Good to know there are good Indian Journalists like you not buying in to the official story spun by the Indian Govt and Media and international media. I agree with you Sandya Jain 100 percent.  
  Mark  
  07 Dec 2008  
   
 
  Brilliant! Very good theory. To find out truth about Bombay attacks ATS officers who died in the attacks will be sadly missed. Hope some day and some body with extra ordinary courage and intelligence will emerge to resolve the puzzle.  
  sam  
  12 Dec 2008  
   
 
  Brilliant! Very good theory. To find out truth about Bombay attacks ATS officers who died in the attacks will be sadly missed. Hope some day and some body with extra ordinary courage and intelligence will emerge to resolve the puzzle.  
  sam  
  13 Dec 2008  
   
 
  Yes, all indians think different from the story of media, administration and agencies. We all indian wish to save our country and integrity of all community. We hate terrorism and you have given a different angle and give strategy to investigate the Mumbai Attack by bloodies. Congratualation...!  
  Jamal Patiwala  
  25 Dec 2008  
   
 
  USA wants a balance of power against China, so here it is we Indians are in Picture Great! Israel is loosing the support of USA because its collapsing. Israel trying to enter India, Pakistan too is cornered, it helped USA with the help of Taleban to Collapse Russia, now its turn for USA! so they target India so Indians can fight them! Good Move US  
  The Indian  
  30 Dec 2008  
   
 
  Excellent Job. I hope, I had come across this article earlier. Though I agree with most of your well done article, I would like to object to Pakistan or ISI , direct or indirect involvement,especially under the given circumstances when Pakistan itself is in a turmoil both economically and as a Victim of terrorism. I also do not believe, direct involvement of America in this particular incident. what I truly believe and a commonsense tell me that it was a mutual operation of RAW with the help of Mossad. I would be not surprise, if the original plan was even proposed and constructed by the Later. Remember, what Israelis did, in the beginning of WWII? when they (in Palestine) secretly signed contract with the British because of the Fear , that the American Jews might convince USA to side with Germany. But in WWI, they Fought along with Germany. that is a clear example of the real Jews. when, comes to their benefit, they will do anything and every thing even doubting their own people. See what they did? By Creating the unfortunate Mumbai Massacre, they were able, to deviate world's attention From them, and created another genocide in Gaza. Do not Forget, this was their short term goal and God knows what is cocking in their brain For long term, by creating a war between India and Pakistan. But even that is not a secret anymore, IF you pay close attention to it. Remember, Palestinian's cause was widely supported though out the India before, but what happened to it now? Who is becoming the Biggest customer of Israelis war technology?? and so on so Forth. I am not excluding, that Pakistanis one of the biggest enemy of Israel because of its Strength & Nukes, the only Muslim country left among the rest etc etc  
  Perwazekhudi  
  22 Jan 2009  
   
 
  This is an interesting article Sandhya and asks some important questions. Is there any chance you can write a follow up piece with the information available at the present time? There is one strange inconsistancy that I would like to highlight. One newspaper quoted a policeman who described what he encountered in Chabad House: "I went into the building late last night," he said. "I got a shock because they were white. I was expecting them to look like us. They fired three shots. I fired 10 back." And an Iraqi tourists gave the following description of shooters at Leopold Cafe: "They did not look Indian, they looked foreign. One of them, I thought, had blonde hair. The other had a punkish hairstyle. They were neatly dressed," Even light skinned Indians do not look like white Europeans. Indians always have black hair which is rare among white people. The gunmen - 9 dead and captured Kasab, are all typical dark skinned desis. None could possibly be mistaken for a white person. So who was shooting at the cop at Chabad House? One could perhaps suggest that the Iraqi guy made a mistake in the chaos, but surely not the cop.  
  Jitendra  
  12 Oct 2009  
   
 
  Subj: Sarvadharamsambhvay 1. Attriji Sarvadharamsambhvay, I think you are referring too. Those, who recite this precious Mantra have indeed taken a leave of their senses. I couldn't disagree with you. This pious Mantra has no room for ADHARMA in it, but penny does not drop in some of us. BK Chaudhari 2. My Take: Chaudhari Sahib: Thanks for your comments. 3. Reg: Sarvadharamsambhvay: Yes, that is the term that they use. Frankly, I don't think much of this term, because it is phoney. Sarvadharamsambhvay or Equal Respect ( or Equal Consideration ) for all religions, can exist ONLY among those religions who, have goodwill towards each other, and wish each other well. It CANNOT exist amongst followers of Hostile religions. Do Moslems or Christians wish us Hindus well, or are they working for total destruction of our Hindu faith ? 4. Quote: Those, who recite this precious Mantra have indeed taken a leave of their senses COMMENT: Very much so, Chaudhari Sahib. Their logic has gone to pieces. That is why, no matter what label you put on this bull-sh**, it stinks. It is an Out-House Expression ( Please pardon my French or my Portuguese ! ). 5. This term also does a double or triple mischief. Phoney-Liberal politicians of Congress, CPI, Janata Dal et al, who tout this BS day in & day out, are keeping the Hindus completely in the dark, about the condition of their Hindu society. It conceals the heinous conspiracy that, Moslems & Christians are hatching for the total liquidation of Hinduism from India. By putting Hindus to sleep, they keep them from taking steps, to confront the hostile ideologies of Islam & Christianity. 6. To put it simply & succinctly, this expression is a GIANT fraud on the Hindu. It destroys his cultural ( Hindu ) identity, and makes him turn his back on his Hinduism ( and its Vedic roots ). A rational & alert Hindu, should see through this deceit & deception, and recognize that: " The Phoney-Liberals are up to No Good. " Surinder Paul Attri  
  spattri  
  09 Dec 2009  
   
 
  Subj: Message from Ben 1. christianity is a disgusting religion. there's not one redeemable characteristic about it. yet these buffoons think they need to go into non-christian lands and save the souls of the hindus,buddhists,and other "pagan" types. these self righteous and condescending pricks make me sick. 2. My Take: Quote: christianity is a disgusting religion. there's not one redeemable characteristic about it. COMMENT: Damn right you are, Ben. Christianity is a Masterpiece of Stupidity and Rank Lies ( I am using milder words ! ). Quote: yet these buffoons think they need to go into non-christian lands and save the souls of the hindus,buddhists,and other "pagan" types. these self righteous and condescending pricks make me sick. COMMENT: This is because these pricks have Never critically studied their religion. If they had done so, they would have rejected it outright, as being totally false, and not worth a tinker's damn. Christians claim of Christianity, as the work of God, falls flat on its hindquarters. Surinder Paul Attri  
  spattri  
  20 Dec 2009  
   
 
  Subj: Message from Ben 1. poonam abbi to me I don't know if any one has ever made the connection, but over their almost 2k years of history, the christions have brought only devastation & destruction to whatever land they have stepped on any where over the globe. 2. My Take: Poonam Jee: Some ( albeit very few ) have made the connection, but majority ( Christians & Non-Christians ) has not. 3. In spite of a vastly-wicked record, Christians are " shamelessly " going all out to convert Non-Christians, promising them Heaven, but delivering Hell. It is Totally senseless for Hindus to sit quiet, and make no effort, to inhibit such savagery. 4. Then why are we Hindus sitting on our A** ? Because we Hindus are too damn selfish. Our highest priority is on our personal welfare, and lowest on rest of Hindu Community. Surinder Paul Attri  
  spattri  
  21 Dec 2009  
   
 
  1. MUSLIM MASS MURDERER NOW SEEKS LEGAL REDRESS FORT HOOD KILLER CRIES: “MY RIGHTS ARE VIOLATED!” 2. My Take: This bastard wants " an egg on his beer." 3. He ought to be sent where his Allah is sending Kafirs ( Non-Moslem Infidels ). This ought to be a happy contract agreement. 4. The least he ought to be given is: " A Kafir-Kick in his A**. " Surinder Paul Attri  
  spattri  
  23 Dec 2009  
   
 
  Subj: Caste System > 1. My point exactly...we are all running after the golden > deer. Inspite of making so much noise about Raam Janma > Bhoomi, Raam Setu, Raam Raajya etc., we are totally ignoring > to learn one of the most important lessons of > Ramayan...there is no deer with golden skin...even Raam Ji > had to go through years of torture & Sita Ji through > public humiliation as consequence of their desire for the > golden deer. And, yes, the brahmans, their claims that they > were created by Brahma from the head of Vishnu, the > Kshatriyas from the shoulders, the Vaishyas from the abdomen > & so they are higher in the hierarchy, & the > Shoodras are lowly because they were created from the feet > of Vishnu & were created for the sole purpose of serving > the higher castes, okay, agreed. But then, why are the top 3 > castes in the proverbial "deep shit" of hatred > from the "Shoodras?" Because they forgot that the > basic sanitation had been delegated to the shoodras...all > those tasks that are > > absolutely important for the oh so clean existence of the > upper castes. When you starve the very people who are > supposed to do your dirty work, they will not be able to > perform their "duty" & will result in ahe > mess. Do we neglect our feet & pay more attention to our > heads? Why did these brilliant upper caste people forget > that the society is like a body...each part is equally > important, including those parts that create only > "shit"? > > Sorry, but if you can, please put this in more asthetic > words. > Namaste > Poonam > > 2. My Take: > Quote: My point exactly...we are all running after the > golden deer. Inspite of making so much noise about Raam > Janma Bhoomi, Raam Setu, Raam Raajya etc., we are totally > ignoring to learn one of the most important lessons of > Ramayan...there is no deer with golden skin...even Raam Ji > had to go through years of torture & Sita Ji through > public humiliation as consequence of their desire for the > golden deer. And, yes, the brahmans, their claims that they > were created by Brahma from the head of Vishnu, the > Kshatriyas from the shoulders, the Vaishyas from the abdomen > & so they are higher in the hierarchy, & the > Shoodras are lowly because they were created from the feet > of Vishnu & were created for the sole purpose of serving > the higher castes, okay, agreed. > > COMMENT: Regarding the statement " ...there is no deer > with golden skin " Golden deer do not exist, but > there are stories of deer with golden antlers. > > Quote: And, yes, the brahmans, their claims that they were > created by Brahma from the head of Vishnu, the Kshatriyas > from the shoulders, the Vaishyas from the abdomen & so > they are higher in the hierarchy, & the Shoodras are > lowly because they were created from the feet of Vishnu > & were created for the sole purpose of serving the > higher castes, okay, agreed. > > > COMMENT: Here you are talking about our Hindu Caste System. > > I have taken a stand against the caste system, for at least > 25 years, because it is a hier-archical system, a > differential system, a system of superiority & > inferiority of humans by birth, contradistinct from equality > before law. I have proposed an Integral system, named > Integral-Hinduism ( a totally casteless Hinduism ) in its > place. > > > Critics of caste system often cite Hindu scriptures, > sanctioning the practice of caste system. They fail to > realize that Hindu scriptures have two types of messages: > Timely i.e Time-Dependent, belonging only to the people of > the period, in which they are produced > > AND > Timeless i.e. Time-Independent, that are restricted to no > time, they are eternal & applicalble to all ages. > > It is self-evident that Caste System is a Timely System, > and conditions now are totally different from when caste > system was first devised. Caste system is a social system, > although it is considered a system of the Hindu religion, > because Hindus practise it. Social systems ( and their > components, caste system included ) change & must > change. > > > Initially caste system was Non-Hereditary, but its practice > for a long long time, made it rigid & inelastic. At this > point in time,caste system is Totally-Obsolete. > Caste system has been changing, is changing, and will > continue to change. Hinduism is moving toward > Integral-Hinduism. It will take a few generations to > eliminate caste system completely. > > > 3. Quote: ...each part is equally important, including > those parts that create only "shit"? > Sorry, but if you can, please put this in more asthetic > words. > > COMMENT: SH** is a frequently-used word in the US. Even in > India, people use this word, not for any scientific reason. > Indians possibly feel that " Americans have got it > right. " > > > Surinder Paul Attri  
  spattri  
  25 Dec 2009  
   
 
  ISLAM'S DERRING-DO OF HYPOCRISY By S.P. Attri ( USA ) ----------------------------------------------------------- 1. On New Year's Eve, a massive Ad, carefully organized by CAIR ( Council on American-Islamic Relations ), will appear on Time Square, New Year disposing that: " Islam Is A Religion Of Peace. " Alongside, there are going to be plenty of snapshots of prominent & highly successful Moslems, each one claiming: " I am Muslim, I am American. " CAIR has no remorse in sticking this Disgraceful-Jargon to New Yorkers, the same city where their co-religionists murdered over 3000 New Yorkers ( Twin-Towers Blast ).. 2. Islam the religion of peace ? What horse-sh** ? Why ? Because it covers the truth of the subject, particularly that this Peaceful religion of Islam & its high-voltage barbarian Sullas have sent hundreds of millions of Kafirs ( Non-Moslem Infidels ) to Hell. The first part of the statement " I am Muslim, who will enjoy damsels in Janat/Moslems Paradise " is true, but the latter saying " I am American " is false, because Moslems can never be part of Kafir-Americans, who shall burn in Hell-Fire. Moslems want to bring Jehad to these hateful Kafir-Americans. 3. Moslems are taught that: Moslems are Allah's Party, and the Non-Moslems ( such as Non-Moslem Americans ) are Shaitaan's (Satan ) Party, and an Un-Ending war between these two groups, has been ordered by Hazrat Mohammad. In Allah's battle, anything goes, and Moslems work over time to cover up the truth of this procedure, in order to keep the ignorance level of the Kafirs ( Kafir Americans included ) at the highest level. For Moslems, it is a game of bluffing the hateful Kafirs, which is accepted by Mohammad & Allah. There is no Geneva Convention in Allah's war against Kafirs. 4. A prominent Moslem lawyer ( chairman of society of Moslem lawyers & preacher ), 41 year old Anjem Choudhary, who praised Mumbai-Massacre as a glorious event, is telling Moslems that: " Christmas is condemnable, its celebration is forbidden by Allah. Decorating house, buying Chrismas tree, or having Christmas turkey dinners, are completely prohibited by Allah, their observance will lead to Hell-Fire. " 5. This is the political temperature of Islam. Five years from now, the USA & the rest of the Kafir world, will be a much more dangerous place than it is today. The policy of phoney-liberalism in the USA, Europe, and India, will turn millions of Allah's Moslems, against the Kafirs of the world. This will be the Dark New World. Islamic Hypocrisy as a religion of peace, will succeed not due to soundness or strength of Islam, but due to gaping ignorance of Kafirs ( Non-Moslem Infidels ). Surinder Paul Attri  
  spattri  
  25 Dec 2009  
   
 
  Subj: Response to Poonam Jee's message 1. Namaste Sir, I respect your comments. The choice of the word s*** was deliberate, & not because I could not have used a better "more asthetic" word. But sometimes it helps in more ways than one to be realistic & depict the reality. The depiction of the disgusting reality of our lives, systems & society should be...must be done by us. That will be one way of not only us acknowledging & trying to correct our flaws & faults & clean it up, but will also make it less financially attractive for the s***ty foreigners to come & cash on it & misrepresent it to malign us. 2. My Take: Namaste to you also, Poonam Jee. 3. Quote: I respect your comments COMMENT: Thanks. 4. Quote: The choice of the word s*** was deliberate, & not because I could not have used a better "more asthetic" word. COMMENT: I know it was. No need to apologize. Language is only a means to communicate, not to rise socially in life. 5. Quote: But sometimes it helps in more ways than one to be realistic & depict the reality. COMMENT: This barnyard term, does cut down lot of verbiage. 6. Quote: The depiction of the disgusting reality of our lives, systems & society should be...must be done by us. That will be one way of not only us acknowledging & trying to correct our flaws & faults & clean it up, but will also make it less financially attractive for the s***ty foreigners to come & cash on it & misrepresent it to malign us. COMMENT: Covering of flaws does not work. Foreigners uncover ours, and we un-sheath theirs. We are always ready to take them on, and pick on their observations, which are inaccurate or mis-placed. Surinder Paul Attri  
  spattri  
  25 Dec 2009  
   
 
  Subj: Linear-Thinking 1. Ayesha Siddiqa DAWN You article on "Linear Thinking: (DAWN, Friday, 25th December, 2009) is written with good intentions. You have skillfully analyzed the uncomfortable reality and the savage truth behind Linear Thinking. But you have deliberately ignored Islamic Linear Thinking. As a closed, non-compromising, reductionist dogma, Islam is replete with linear thinking. Is it not fair to say, Pakistani politicians are conditioned with Linear thinking because of their Islamic indoctrination? As followers of the closed Islamic dogma, Islamists are compelled to follow linear thinking, since Muslims are trapped in it at an early age. If we are to make any progress, we must dispose of such Linear, reductionist and mechanical thinking. People who follow linear thinking have always a temptation to simplify problems facing them into clear-cut categories or dichotomies of black or white, right or wrong. For muslims, It is islam vs. kafirs. it is necessary to recognize the broader perspective, wholistic thinking as the best way of looking at a problem. The question we need to raise when choosing a theory for analyzing a complex issue: Is linear thing allow us to include all the varibales? most of the pakistani islamic fundamentalists are using the inappropriate liner thinking in finding a solution for complex problems. It ma be like trying to dig a canal with a spoon. It is necessary to understand systemic thinking and have a wholistic frame of mind for dealing with complex problems. The sooner Pakistani Muslims abandon narrow, sectarian reductionist- Linear Thinking and their exclusive islamic dogmatism, they will be able to embrace democracy, tolerance, humanism, peace and progress. Thank you for your clear views on Linear Thinking Dr. Babu Suseelan 2. My Take: Quote: Islam is replete with linear thinking. COMMENT: Islam satiated with Linear-Thinking, turns its nose up on Non-Linear Thinking. 3. Quote: As followers of the closed Islamic dogma, Islamists are compelled to follow linear thinking, since Muslims are trapped in it at an early age. COMMENT: From near the first part of their life, Moslems ( Pakistani politicians included ) soak up a vast amount of Linear-Thinking. Mullahs & Maulvies repeat ad infinitum: " Stay with me, stay with Mohammad, stay with Quran, stay with Allah and so on. " This kind of parrot-like Linear-Thinking ( Linear-Message ), which the Mullahs mis-label as Logical-Thinking, buries Moslems into the Black-Hole of Islam. But Moslems can get out of this mental slump, and get out of it, if they develop an attitude of questioning, to seek the truth, and reject the falsehood. 4. Quote: People who follow linear thinking have always a temptation to simplify problems facing them into clear-cut categories or dichotomies of black or white, right or wrong. For muslims, It is islam vs. kafirs. COMMENT: True, True, True. Linear-Thinking is an easy way out, for dealing with simple problems, but it gets you stuck when dealing with complex problems. Repeated application of this thinking, gets you stuck in a rut. One definition of rut ( from a friend of mine ) : " Rut is a coffin without nails. " In other words, Linear-Thinking is as dead as a cemetry, in the world of today. 5. Quote: The question we need to raise when choosing a theory for analyzing a complex issue: Is linear thing allow us to include all the varibales? most of the pakistani islamic fundamentalists are using the inappropriate liner thinking in finding a solution for complex problems. COMMENT: That is the Only correct question that we can ask oursleves ( and teach our children ). It is quite amazing, but it is a matter of common observation that, simplicity does not exist any more in the world of today. In fact, during the last 1400 years of existence of Islam, momentum has shifted away from simplicity, and towards technological complexity of life. It is also a fact that, no body can stop this momentum, not even Islam's Allah. In the present world of ours, there are hell of a lot more Rotary-Actuators ( Non-Linear ), than there are Linear-Actuators. Pun Intended. 6. Quote: It ma be like trying to dig a canal with a spoon. It is necessary to understand systemic thinking and have a wholistic frame of mind for dealing with complex problems. COMMENT: It is certainly possible to dig a canal with a spoon, if you are willing to dig long enough, and have longing, longevity, & strength to do it. But it is an In-Adequate procedure, and that is what this observation is all about. We are living in a crazy, uncertain, and extremely-complex world. A solution design in this kind of world, requires Non-Linear Thinking ( Yanks abbreviate it as NLT ). It is also sometimes referred to as Systems-Thinking & Circular-Thinking, even though no circles are involved, except imaginary ones. 7. Quote: The sooner Pakistani Muslims abandon narrow, sectarian reductionist- Linear Thinking and their exclusive islamic dogmatism, they will be able to embrace democracy, tolerance, humanism, peace and progress. COMMENT: Stuck in a long-existing Linear-Formula ( mis-labelled as Logical-Formula by Mullahs & Maulvies ), Moslems of Pakistan would find it hell of a job, to whittle down the monster of their Linear-Thinking. But if they could, it would change their life, and that of the world, for the better. 8. To summarize, I totally concur with Dr. Suseelan Jee that: NLT is the real thing to do. Surinder Paul Attri  
  spattri  
  26 Dec 2009  
   
 
  Subj: 93 pc of Brits to skip the church on Christmas 1. London, Dec 25 : A new survey has revealed that almost 93 per cent of Britons would be skipping the church on Christmas Day. They would either be spending Christmas eating turkey, drinking champagne or opening presents - but will not attend the church. The study by Opinion Matters only 11 per cent had the intention of attending Midnight Mass last night on Christmas Eve, while 86 per cent said they sent Christmas cards. Daily Express columnist Ann Widdecombe told Express.co.uk: "If you''re not going to church on either Christmas Eve or Christmas Day then why are you celebrating Christmas?" "What does Christmas mean if you are not going to church?" she asked. The survey also showed that a huge 87 per cent of 16-24-year-olds are opting out, compared with only 72 per cent of over 55s. Widdecombe said political correctness is the reason for the low attendance figures. 2. My Take: Reference: almost 93 per cent of Britons would be skipping the church on Christmas Day ( 25 Dec 2009 ). Other Europeans are similar. COMMENT: How does this Anti-Christian agenda of Europeans in general, and of Britons in particular, hit the Rapacious-Pirates of Christianity, those black-robed beggars, who love to uproot Pagans/Heathens from the soil of Europe ? Answer: They cannot be excited about what they are seeing, right before their eyes. Because the medieval Christian image of the Devil ( Satan ), still persists in the minds of these black-robed beggars, and because Christianity blames a totally-imaginary object, a creature of no-existence ( which it names as the Devil ), as the cause of all evil, it is very difficult for them not to see devils & demons, roaming around the streets of Briton & of Europe. The number of such followers of the devil in Briton alone, now runs into millions. 3. No matter how monstrous & extravagant it looks to these black-robed beggars, their dream of uprooting Paganism completely from the soil of Europe ( and from elsewhere ), cannot be realized. The Europeans have decided to be in league with the Devil. Not even their leader,Jesus Christ, can stop the momentum of this outing ( out of Christianity ). 4. Christianity is not, and has never been a religion. Christianity has always been a predatory-ideology. What the Rapacious-Pirates ( dressed as Priests ) are not seeing is: a. That what the Europeans are rejecting is JUNK b. That what they ( the Priests of Christianity ) have received is BUM-DOPE 5. Christian Priests would be smart to opt out of Christianity. Surinder Paul Attri  
  spattri  
  26 Dec 2009  
   
 
  Subj: 93 pc of Brits to skip the church on Christmas 1. London, Dec 25 : A new survey has revealed that almost 93 per cent of Britons would be skipping the church on Christmas Day. They would either be spending Christmas eating turkey, drinking champagne or opening presents - but will not attend the church. The study by Opinion Matters only 11 per cent had the intention of attending Midnight Mass last night on Christmas Eve, while 86 per cent said they sent Christmas cards. Daily Express columnist Ann Widdecombe told Express.co.uk: "If you''re not going to church on either Christmas Eve or Christmas Day then why are you celebrating Christmas?" "What does Christmas mean if you are not going to church?" she asked. The survey also showed that a huge 87 per cent of 16-24-year-olds are opting out, compared with only 72 per cent of over 55s. Widdecombe said political correctness is the reason for the low attendance figures. 2. My Take: Reference: almost 93 per cent of Britons would be skipping the church on Christmas Day ( 25 Dec 2009 ). Other Europeans are similar. COMMENT: How does this Anti-Christian agenda of Europeans in general, and of Britons in particular, hit the Rapacious-Pirates of Christianity, those black-robed beggars, who love to uproot Pagans/Heathens from the soil of Europe ? Answer: They cannot be excited about what they are seeing, right before their eyes. Because the medieval Christian image of the Devil ( Satan ), still persists in the minds of these black-robed beggars, and because Christianity blames a totally-imaginary object, a creature of no-existence ( which it names as the Devil ), as the cause of all evil, it is very difficult for them not to see devils & demons, roaming around the streets of Briton & of Europe. The number of such followers of the devil in Briton alone, now runs into millions. 3. No matter how monstrous & extravagant it looks to these black-robed beggars, their dream of uprooting Paganism completely from the soil of Europe ( and from elsewhere ), cannot be realized. The Europeans have decided to be in league with the Devil. Not even their leader,Jesus Christ, can stop the momentum of this outing ( out of Christianity ). 4. Christianity is not, and has never been a religion. Christianity has always been a predatory-ideology. What the Rapacious-Pirates ( dressed as Priests ) are not seeing is: a. That what the Europeans are rejecting is JUNK b. That what they ( the Priests of Christianity ) have received is BUM-DOPE 5. Christian Priests would be smart to opt out of Christianity. Surinder Paul Attri  
  spattri  
  26 Dec 2009  
   
 
  Subj: A Bishop advises his congregation to shop-lift 1.Attriji Namaskaar TheTimes, Londonof 22nd Dec carried a report that a Bishop in North Yorkshire has advised his flock that they shouild resort to shop-lifting. He was rather selective in his approach. He asked diasadvantaged (Wagesless and poor) people to do so and that also at bigs upermarket/stores. He further clarified that this course is better than prostitution. The Police Authorities were concerned that such a "sermon" should come from a Church holyman. The Business Community were furious that they should be targetted like this, when as a Citizen they pay legitimate taxes for the relief of the down-troddens. In Christianity, one of the Commanments: Thy shall not steal appears to have been replaced by this Bishop with: Thy shall Shop-lift! Attriji, to me it does not appear to be unique idea. In this modern age Christianity cannot remain unscientifivc. In India poor people are enticed to covert to Christianity in the name of egalitarianism and after conversions they are asked/encouraged to beg as Dalits! Yours sincerelu BK Chaudhari 2. My Take: Namaskar to you also, Chaudhari Sahib: 3. Yes, this Bishop, Father Tim Jones, is advising his congregation to shop-lift. For this, he has been criticized as " highly irresponsible. " Says Father Jones: " stealing from large chains ( not from small ones ), is sometimes the best option for vulnerable people. " Is he the bandit of Sherwood Forest, Robin Hood , robbing the rich to give it to the poor ? Hardly ! Father Jones is no hood ( hoodlum). He is confronting a diabolical puzzle, for which his Christianity has no real clue. That is his problem. 4. But isn't there a Biblical-Commandment against stealing ? Yes, there is. But this particular commandment is as obligatory, as are the other nine. In fact, these ten commandments are as hollow as a drum. Why so ? Because there is no foundation or stone-work of accountability in Christianity. 5. To intents & purposes, Biblical-Commandments are Mere Metaphors. Christians use metaphors all over the place ( believe you me ). Additions, subtractions, and modifications are worked out, all the time. For instance, a Biblical-Commandment says: " Love they neighbor..... " A Christian modification of this is: " Love thy neighbor & his wife " You don't have to be a rocket-scientist to see that, suitable derivatives can be worked out, to meet the needs of the situation. 6. Now look at the Hindu System: Hinduism confronts evil Head-On. Hinduism puts man in the Driver's Seat, and holds him responsible for all his deeds, good as well bad. A Hindu rises by good deeds & falls by evil deeds. This is the Hindu Principle of Karma & Re-Incarnation. There is nothing like this principle in either Islam or Christianity. In daily life, Christians hear the narrative: " As you sow, so shall you reap ( that is what Karma essentially is ). " But their clergy forbids them to utter " Karma ," because Karma is the work of the Devil. 7. Then how does Christianity deal with evil ? Answer: Christianity does Not deal with evil at all. Christianity blames all evil, on a totally-imaginary creature, which it names as the Devil ( Satan ). 8. Another Christian mischief: Christianity sedulously trains its Christians as " Pass The Buck Artists ." A Christian commits crime/sin, and his leader Jesus Christ, pays for his crime. The Christian does not have to worry about payment. He goes back to crime, and passes the buck again to Jesus Christ. 9. Another Christian mischief: The Confessional. A Christian goes to his priest & confesses his crime. Once this is done, he considers himself free. He returns to crime & repeats Confessional. 10. To put it simply, derivatives of Biblical-Commandments, dominate the life of Christians. No rule nor any commandment really applies in Christianity. 11. Quote: Attriji, to me it does not appear to be unique idea. COMMENT: Chaudhari Sahib: No it is not. In fact, there is nothing Unique in Christianity. Stories of the Bible itself, are theological-derivatives of Arabian Night Stories ( that have been making the rounds of Arabia for thousands of years ). 12. Quote: In this modern age Christianity cannot remain unscientifivc COMMENT: Christianity has done pretty well for itself for 2000 years, with its unscientific apparatus. Why should it change ? But if it did, then the attendant attitudes of questioning, to seek the truth, and reject the falsehood, would bring about the end of Christianity. Christian Clergy knows this. And they are Not going to cut their own throat. 13. Quote: In India poor people are enticed to covert to Christianity in the name of egalitarianism and after conversions they are asked/encouraged to beg as Dalits! COMMENT: Christianity & its Bible, are a bunch of Lies, and Christian-Clergy, are Blithering-Idiots. It is a pity that, Hindus are Not counter-attacking to annihilate their BS. Surinder Paul Attri  
  spattri  
  27 Dec 2009  
   
 
  1. Subj:Terrorists have no religion -- Shah Rukh Khan is not telling the truth Babu Suseelan: Mike Ghouse is a Muslim attempting to hoodwink the gullible public and mentally misguide them to believe that Muslims are for peace. All Muslims are not committing terrorism for reasons. But all Muslims have the potential to become a Jihadi. Education, social status, social role and wealth has nothing to do with a Muslim to go amok and start killing innocent infidels while shouting Allah Akbar. Criminals are born in every communities. In democratic countries, they are arrested, prosecuted and tried by the impartial judiciary and sentenced for rehabilitation if found guilty. If he is not happy living in Houston, why not he move to saudi Arabia, Pakistan or Afghanistan where Muslims are free to practice Islamic sharia. Since islam is a closed, reductionist and violent dogma and violence and terrorism is a common occurrence in all Islamic societies, Muslims have developed what psychologists termed "Banner Blindness'. Just as the city dweller become inured to the noise, Muslims are habituated to violence and terrorism. Muslims are inoculated against the lasting islamic violence. And because these habituated muslims no longer condemn jihadi terrorism, does not mean Islam is peace. overall, considering the violent behavior of Muslims as a lens, we are justified in blaming that all Muslims have the potential to become a Jihadi terrorist. 2. My Take: Quote:Terrorists have no religion -- Shah Rukh Khan COMMENT: Are you " Mucho Loco Kabesa " Signor SRK, or are you trying to conceal the guise of Jehad ? 3. Quote:Mike Ghouse, a Muslim, is attempting to hoodwink the gullible public and mentally misguide them to believe that Muslims are for peace. COMMENT: Signor Mike Ghouse: We Kafirs have heard your kind of horse-sh**, in the face of killers like Babur, Jehangir, Shah Jehan, Aurangzeb, Suhrawardy, et al. Stop trying to pass on your " Stealthy-Jehad. " 4. Psychiatrists tell us that we humans are reasonable people, that is, we do not do anything without a reason. And terrorists & their blind animal courage, is Not an exception to this rule.The promise to followers of Islam, of wild sex with 72 HOURIS in Janat ( Moslem's Paradise ) is a highly-attractive reason & reward, to engage in Kafir-Killing. This act is Allah's Jehad, Allah's war against hateful-Kafirs, and Islam promises that Moslems are sure to win in this war. 5. Moslems are given NEARLY all plundered Kafir property, Kafir's women, and Kafir's children, to become Moslem's concubines, and slaves. These kinds of highly-charismatic rewards create the grand-climax of terrorism, and ideology of Islam is the one, which puts Moslems in the house of terrorism. NOTE: brutalities committed by Allah's Soldiers, are without parallel in human history. Surinder Paul Attri  
  spattri  
  03 Jan 2010  
   
 
  Subj: Reply to points raised by Poonam 1. does that mean that those brits are no christians, thereby bringing down the number of christians in britain? Was this not one of the croterion on which the british gobermint & courts had disqualified Hinduism as a religion? Because hindus do not have to attend a roll call in front of a divine warden who is the parole officer appointed by jesus, the son of god, in a church, that is built from the money bilked out of poor people who either truly believe that giving money to build these buildings will buy them a good seat in heaven, or give because of the dire consequences of not giving? 2. My Take: Quote:does that mean that those brits are no christians, thereby bringing down the number of christians in britain? COMMENT: It means exactly what the numbers reflect, that only 7 % of the Britains are Confirmed-Christians ( Bible-Banging Christians: who are under the strong control of church, its doctrine & ideology ). The other 93 % are either Non-Christians or Jack-Christians ( whose beliefs most likely, embrace ideas of " New Age Of Enlightenment ). 4. Quote: Was this not one of the croterion on which the british gobermint & courts had disqualified Hinduism as a religion? COMMENT: I have not heard that, British Governemt or any of its courts, has disqualified Hinduism as a religion. You can send me a copy of the report, which says so, and I will try to sort it further. 5. Quote: Because hindus do not have to attend a roll call in front of a divine warden who is the parole officer appointed by jesus, the son of god, in a church, that is built from the money bilked out of poor people who either truly believe that giving money to build these buildings will buy them a good seat in heaven, or give because of the dire consequences of not giving? COMMENT: Hindus do Not practise these rituals, nor do they subscribe to the attendant-accessory, absurd promises of deliverance, nor do they dread the consequences ( fires of Christian- Hell ), because this Non-Sense is Not part of the Hindu System. This is the paraphernalia of a dark age, of the apparatus of Christianity. It is the same Christianity through which, Europe entered the DarK Ages, centuries ago. It has been the foulest crime, and deepest shame of Western Civilization. 6. But we Hindus should not allow ourselves to be impaired or diverted, by these irrational & asinine rituals of Christianity, because they are ancillary problems of the Hindu. Hindu's primary problem is Hindus themselves. We Hindus are too damn selfish. We Hindus want to defend Hinduism, but do not want to pay the price of it, we want someone else to pay the price. In other words, we Hindus desire a Free-Lunch, but there is No free lunch in life. If Hindus did not have that problem ( handicap ), then we Hindus could take up basic beliefs/tenets of Christianity, one by one, and Tear Them Down, with Irrefutable Arguments, and Proof. Surinder Paul Attri  
  spattri  
  04 Jan 2010  
   
 
  Terrorists have no religion---Shah Rukh Khan is not telling the truth Subj: Terrorists have no religion---Shah Rukh Khan is not telling the truth 1. Daniel, I am for freedom of speech and that gives others the freedom to say whatever they want, whether you said it or not. YOu cannot stop any one from WMDing Mike Ghouse 2. My Take: Quote: I am for freedom of speech. COMMENT: But if you are for freedom of speech, then why are you still in Islam. There is no freedom of speech in Islam. Islam is the Islam of Quran, a Brutal Gospel Of Hate ( Hatred Of Kafirs/Non-Moslem Infidels ). There neither is nor can there ever, be a freedom of speech in Quran. 3. By pledging freedom of speech, you will lose your identity as a Moslem. Worse yet, you may earn a Fatwa against you. Mullahs & Maulvies ( M & Ms ) will never recognize your right to substitute a Man-Made concept ( such as freedom of speech ), for Allah-Commanded book of Quran. 4. Quran does permit Taqiyya to a Moslem. Quran is against believers ( Moslems ) deceiving ( lying to ) other believers ( Moslems ), but deception ( lying ) directed at Non-Moslems ( Kafirs ), known as Taqiyya, is O.K. and has Quranic support. 5. Other than Quran-commanded Taqiyya, Moslems have no freedom of speech. Their lie to Kafirs ( Non-Moslem Infidels ), is Diligent-Jehad in the name of Allah. Total-collapse of freedom of speech in Islam, is obligatory on a Moslem. Surinder Paul Attri  
  spattri  
  09 Jan 2010  
   
 
  1. Surinder ji: Namaskar to you No body except you can proffer such a cogent and logical argument. No rational person can stand before your argument. You have completely demolished the guy who is masquerading as secularists while hiding his real identity. Thanks again. Narain Kataria 2. My Take: Kataria Jee: Namaskar to you & thanks. Right you are ! Signor Mike Ghouse's statements though addressed to Mr. Daniel Pipes, were meant for me, to bull-sh** me. 3. Mike Ghourse, a Moslem, whose religion/ideology rejects freedom of speech outright, is using " The Big Lie Technique. " Playing A Mean Fiddle, " he is attempting to hoodwink us Kafirs. Truth is exact opposite. 4. Recors of Islam's murder machine, of its mutilation, misery, & brutality on Kafirs, engraved on the pages of history, cannot be camouflaged. These expose Islam's Pitiless Prescription, which is that: " Islam is the only true way of life: the rest ( that is, the Kafir/Non-Moslem religions ) are fake & foul, these must be eliminated, and Kafirs must be murdered or enslaved. " A person cannot be a Moslem, without believing these commands of Islam. 5. . The unquestioned truth is that: " Islam is the ideology of champion-barbarians." . Surinder Paul Attri  
  spattri  
  09 Jan 2010  
   

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