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Nathuram Godse
30 Jan 2009

[On 8 November 1948, Nathuram Godse (19 May 1910-15 November 1949) rose to make his statement in court. Reading quietly from a typed manuscript, he sought to explain why he had killed Gandhi. His thesis covered ninety-pages, and he was on his feet for five hours. Godse's statement, excerpted below, should be read by citizens and scholars in its entirely, for it provides an insight into his personality and his understanding of the concept of Indian nationhood – Editor]


"Born in a devotional Brahmin family, I instinctively came to revere Hindu religion, Hindu history and Hindu culture. I had, therefore, been intensely proud of Hinduism as a whole. As I grew up I developed a tendency to free thinking unfettered by any superstitious allegiance to any isms, political or religious. That is why I worked actively for the eradication of untouchability and the caste system based on birth alone. I openly joined anti-caste movements and maintained that all Hindus are of equal status as to rights, social and religious, and should be considered high or low on merit alone and not through the accident of birth in a particular caste or profession.


I used publicly to take part in organized anti-caste dinners which thousands of Hindus, Brahmins, Vaishyas, Kshatriyas, Chamars and B-----s participated. We broke the caste rules and dined in the company of each other. I have read the speeches and writings of Dadabhai Naoroji, Vivekanand, Gokhale, Tilak, along with the books of ancient and modern history of India and some prominent countries like England, France, America and Russia. Moreover I studied the tenets of socialism and Marxism. But above all I studied very closely what Veer (brave) Savarkar and Gandhiji had written and spoken, as to my mind these two ideologies have contributed more to the moulding of the thought and action of the Indian people during the last thirty years or so, than any other factor has done.


All this thinking and reading led me to believe that it was my first duty to serve Hindudom and Hindus both as a patriot and as a world citizen. To secure the freedom and to safeguard the just interests of some thirty crores (three hundred million) of Hindus would automatically constitute the freedom and well-being of all India, one fifth of the human race. This conviction led me naturally to devote myself to the Hindu Sanatanist ideology and programme, which alone, I came to believe, could win and preserve the National Independence of Hindustan, my Motherland, and enable her to render true service to humanity as well. Since the year 1920, that is, after the demise of Lokmanya Tilak, Gandhi's influence in the Congress first increased and then became supreme.


His activities for public awakening were phenomenal in their intensity and were reinforced by the slogan of truth and non-violence, which he paraded ostentatiously before the country. No sensible or enlightened person could object to these slogans. In fact there is nothing new or original in them. They are implicit in every constitutional public movement. But it is nothing but a dream if you imagine the bulk of mankind is, or can ever become, capable of scrupulous adherence to these lofty principles in its normal life from day to day. In fact, honour, duty and love of one's own kith and kin and country might often compel us to disregard non-violence and to use force. I could never conceive that an armed resistance to an aggression is unjust.


I would consider it a religious and moral duty to resist and if possible, to overpower such an enemy by use of force. (In the Ramayana) Rama killed Ravana in a tumultuous fight and relieved Sita. (In the Mahabharata) Krishna killed Kansa to end his wickedness; and Arjuna had to fight and slay quite a number of his friends and relations, including the revered Bhishma, because the latter was on the side of the aggressor. It is my firm belief that in dubbing Rama, Krishna and Arjuna as guilty of violence, the Mahatma betrayed the total ignorance of the springs of human action. In more recent history, it was the heroic fight put up by Chhatrapati Shivaji that first checked and eventually destroyed the Muslim tyranny in India. It was absolutely essential for Shivaji to overpower and kill an aggressive Afzal Khan, failing which he would have lost his own life. In condemning history's towering warriors like Shivaji, Rana Pratap and Guru Govind Singh as misguided patriots, Gandhi has merely exposed his self-conceit.


He was, paradoxical, as it may appear, a violent pacifist who brought untold calamities on the country in the name of truth and non-violence, while Rana Pratap, Shivaji and the Guru will remain enshrined in the hearts of their countrymen forever for the freedom they brought to them. The accumulating provocation of thirty-two years, culminating in his last pro-Muslim fast, at last goaded me to the conclusion that the existence of Gandhi should be brought to an end immediately. Gandhi had done very good work in South Africa to uphold the rights and well being of the Indian community there.


But when he finally returned to India, he developed a subjective mentality under which he alone was to be the final judge of what was right or wrong. If the country wanted his leadership, it had to accept his infallibility; if it did not, he would stand aloof from the Congress and carry on in his own way. Against such an attitude there can be no halfway house. Either Congress had to surrender its will to his and had to be content with playing second fiddle to all his eccentricity, whimsicality, metaphysics and primitive vision, or it had to carry on without him. He alone was the judge of everyone and everything; he was the master brain guiding the Civil Disobedience movement; no other could know the technique of that movement. He alone knew when to begin it and when to withdraw it. The movement might succeed or fail, but that could make no difference to the Mahatma's infallibility. 'A Satyagrahi can never fail' was his formula for his own infallibility and nobody except himself knew what a Satyagrahi is.


Thus the Mahatma became the judge and the jury in his own case. These childish insanities and obstinacies, coupled with a most severe austerity of life, ceaseless work and lofty character made Gandhi formidable and irresistible. Many people thought that his policies were irrational, but they had either to withdraw from the Congress or place their intelligence at his feet to do with as he liked. In a position of such absolute irresponsibility, Gandhi was guilty of blunder after blunder, failure after failure, and disaster after disaster. Gandhi's pro-Muslim policy is blatantly illustrated in his perverse attitude on the question of the national language of India. It is quite obvious that Hindi has the most prior claim to be accepted as the premier language.


In the beginning of his career in India, Gandhi gave a great impetus to Hindi, but as he found that the Muslims did not like it, he became a champion of what is called Hindustani. Everybody in India knows that there is no language in India called Hindustani; it has no grammar; it has no vocabulary. It is a mere dialect; it is spoken, not written. It is a tongue and a crossbreed between Hindi and Urdu, and not even the Mahatma's sophistry could make it popular. But in his desire to please the Muslims he insisted that Hindustani alone should be the national language of India. His blind followers, of course, supported him and the so-called hybrid language began to be used. The charm and the purity of the Hindi language were to be prostituted to please the Muslims. All his experiments were at the expense of the Hindus.


From August 1946 onwards, the private armies of the Muslim League began a massacre of Hindus. The then Viceroy, Lord Wavell, though distressed at what was happening, would not use his powers under the Government of India Act of 1935 to prevent the rape, murder and arson. The Hindu blood began to flow from Bengal to Karachi with little retaliation by the Hindus. The Interim Government formed in September was sabotaged by its Muslim League members right from its inception, but the more they became disloyal and treasonable to the government of which they were a part, the greater was Gandhi's infatuation for them.


Lord Wavell had to resign as he could not bring about a settlement and was succeeded by Lord Mountbatten. King Stork followed King Log. The Congress, which had boasted of its nationalism and secularism, secretly accepted Pakistan literally at the point of the bayonet and abjectly surrendered to Jinnah. India was vivisected and one-third of the Indian Territory became foreign land to us from 15 August 1947. Lord Mountbatten came to be described in the Congress circles as the greatest Viceroy and Governor-General this country ever had.


The official date for the handing over of power was fixed for June 30, 1948, but Mountbatten with his ruthless surgery gave us a gift of vivisected India ten months in advance. This is what Gandhi had achieved after thirty years of undisputed dictatorship and this is what the Congress party calls 'freedom' and 'peaceful transfer of power'. The Hindu-Muslim unity bubble was finally burst and a theocratic state was established with the consent of Nehru and his crowd and they have called it 'freedom won by them with sacrifice' - whose sacrifice? When top leaders of Congress, with the consent of Gandhi, divided and tore the country - which we considered a deity of worship - my mind was filled with direful anger.


One of the conditions imposed by Gandhi for his breaking of the fast related to the mosques in Delhi occupied by the Hindu refugees. But when Hindus in Pakistan were subjected to violent attacks he did not so much as utter a single word to protest and censure the Pakistan Government or the Muslims concerned. Gandhi was shrewd enough to know that while undertaking a fast unto death, had he imposed some conditions on the Muslims in Pakistan, there would have been found hardly any Muslims who could have shown some grief if the fast had ended in his death. It was for this reason that he purposely avoided imposing any conditions on the Muslims.


He was fully aware from past experience that Jinnah was not at all perturbed or influenced by his fast and the Muslim League hardly attached any value to the inner voice of Gandhi. Gandhi is being referred to as the Father of the Nation. But if that is so, he has failed in his paternal duty inasmuch he has acted very treacherously to the nation by his consenting to the partitioning of it. I stoutly maintain that Gandhi has failed in his duty. He has proved to be the Father of Pakistan. His inner-voice, his spiritual power, his doctrine of non-violence of which so much is made of, all crumbled against Jinnah's iron will and proved to be powerless.


Briefly speaking, I thought to myself and foresaw that I shall be totally ruined, and the only thing I could expect from the people would be nothing but hatred and that I shall have lost all my honour, even more valuable than my life, if I were to kill Gandhiji. But at the same time I thought that the Indian politics in the absence of Gandhiji would surely be practical, able to retaliate and would be powerful with the armed forces. No doubt, my own future would be totally ruined, but the nation would be saved from the inroads of Pakistan. People may even call me or dub me as devoid of any sense or foolish, but the nation would be free to follow the course founded on the reason, which I consider necessary for sound nation-building.


After having fully considered the question, I took the final decision in the matter, but I did not speak about it to anyone whatsoever. I took courage in both my hands and I did fire the shots at Gandhiji on 30th January 1948, on the prayer-grounds in Birla House. I do say that my shots were fired at the person whose policy and action had brought rack and ruin and destruction to millions of Hindus. There was no legal machinery by which such an offender could be brought to book and for this reason I fired those fatal shots. I bear no ill will towards anyone individually, but I do say that I had no respect for the present government owing to their policy, which was unfairly favourable towards the Muslims. But at the same time I could clearly see that the policy was entirely due to the presence of Gandhi.


I have to say with great regret that Prime Minister Nehru quite forgets that his preaching and deeds are at times at variance with each other when he talks about India as a secular state in season and out of season, because it is significant to note that Nehru has played a leading role in the theocratic state of Pakistan, and his job was made easier by Gandhi's persistent policy of appeasement towards the Muslims. I now stand before the court to accept the full share of my responsibility for what I have done and the judge would, of course, pass against me such orders of sentence as may be considered proper. But I would like to add that I do not desire any mercy to be shown to me, nor do I wish that anyone should beg for mercy on my behalf.


My confidence about the moral side of my action has not been shaken even by the criticism levelled against it on all sides. I have no doubt that honest writers of history will weigh my act and find the true value thereof someday in future."


Nathuram Godse was hanged a year later, on 15 November 1949; as per his last wishes, his family and followers have preserved his ashes for immersion in the Indus River of a re-united India  

 

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  Justice Khosla's observations after retirement are also worth noting. In a pen picture of the Court scene as it then passed before his eyes he has said: "The highlight of the appeal before us was the discourse delivered by Nathuram Godse in his defence. He spoke for several hours, discussing, in the first instance, the facts of the case and then the motive which had prompted him to take Mahatma Gandhi's life..... "The audience was visibly snd audibly moved. There was a deep silence when he ceased speaking. many women were in tears and men coughing and searching for their handkerchiefs. The silence was accentuated and made deeper by the sound an occasional subdued sniff or a muffled cough.... "I have however, no doubt that had the audience of that day been constituted into a jury and entrusted with the task of deciding Godse's appeal, they would have brought in a verdict of 'not guilty' by an overwhelming majority." May it please your honour, Surya Bharti Prakashan, Delhi, 1994, pp. 24-25  
  VK  
  30 Jan 2009  
   
 
  Justice Khoslas Observation And Pictorial Scene Of The Court At That Time , The Lawyers, Their Arguments, Public Present Would Have Give True Version Of What Actualy Happened -Posterity Can Remember. If Any Full Publication Available It Must Be Produced In All National Regional Languages And Populasrised. Rs  
  rajagopalansubramanian  
  01 Feb 2009  
   
 
  It is worth reading again, especially in today’s environment  
  DC  
  03 Feb 2009  
   
 
  Madam, I respect your courage to publish this speech of brave patriot late Nathuram Godse. I am a highly qualified Architect/engineer in America. I got frustrated with that old Gandhi –Nehru Congress and their British obligating dirty politics. I was young (around 18 years) when this Gandhi/Godse instance happened. Still, I was aware of the tricky politics of late Gandhi and his selfish followers. Anyway, thanks and congratulations again for your courage.  
  M. Kumbhojkar  
  05 Feb 2009  
   
 
  There is no doubt that the present day problems faced by India are the legacy of NEHRU-GANDHI follies.It is amazing that these two stalwarts never fathomed the ugli side of the muslims.Once Pakistan was acceeded to, all muslims should have been turned out just as hindus were from Pakistan.Today they live in India and have loyalties to PAN ISLAMIC notion as well as Pakistan.To believe that muslims are Indians at heart is a mistruth ingrained in us by Gandhi- Nehru combine and being nurtured by the Congress Party.I have grown up in a mohalla with mixed Hindu - muslim population.I know it too well that if one call is given by a mullah to kill the hindu neighbour , your muslim friend would do so without asking any question.  
  Gp Capt KP Sharma  
  24 Feb 2009  
   
 
  F***king Amazing Document. Read this on Gandhi Jayanti 2009. Once again Beautiful Document  
  Harsh  
  02 Oct 2009  
   
 
  Since long time, I have been searching for the Reality behind M K Gandhi being named 'Mahatma', meaning 'A great soul'. I'm enlightened by the revelation made by Shri Nathuram Godse. However, I disagree on the statements made that, Muslims should have been thrown out of India, coz that does not leave any visible difference between Good and Bad. I believe, we should call Gandhi died in a war fought by Pro-United-India activists against foes to United-India. Its a suggested and recommended read for every Indian/Hindu, who think Gandhi was assassinated.  
  Sudhir Kumar Suru  
  02 Oct 2009  
   
 
  Well said and Godse's views although distorted could not be said to be completely untrue. Startling yet it was true that a partition was avoidable and a greater Union of India would have been possible if it was not for gandhi's myopic view. And history repeats itself!!!  
  shiyas  
  04 Oct 2009  
   
 
  Very interesting peice of document. This has given an insight to the real happenings at the power centre of freedom strugle and how a majority section of people saw the paths of Movement undertaken by INC or Gandhiji. Diganta, 04.10.09  
  Diganta  
  04 Oct 2009  
   
 
  I m doing my btech, and in the final year. Thanks for , providing us the one of the most importent statement made in court. If gandhi was a follower of nonviolence (his follower was prime minister ) them why Nathuramji was sentenced to death. Why dont the statement was made public , let the people decide whether the killing of there so called father is justified or not.  
  gangesh gunjan  
  28 Oct 2009  
   
 
  Mr Godse's thesis made interesting reading especially in these times when Mahatma bashing seems to be in fashion.Howeever, I do not agree with his premise that non-violence as a policy will not work at all - in the same manner as I do not agree that violence will in all situations. He was divorced from the political reality of the hindu-muslim question that prevailed in the initial five decades of the previous century in undivided India. To direct all his anger towards one person in the face of numerous follies commited by members of both the Muslim league and the Congress has been his greatest disservice to his so called enlightened hindu vision. For the record , a majority of brahmins (me included) do not suscribe to his view.  
  DR SUNIL JAGADISH RAO  
  01 Nov 2009  
   
 
  Mr. Godse should be the one on Indian notes - its should not be a place where a selfish man like Mohandas is immortalized. A true patriot and a martyr. I am, however, concerned about the misinterpretation of his Hindu-Muslim sentiments. Yes we did not have a fanatical Hindu party during partition but we do now. The Shiv Sena, the BJP and so on are all volatile right wing parties that add to the friction started by Jinnah and the Muslim League. People like Gp Capt. K. P. Sharma disappoint me. Religion, as Mr. Godse saw it, existed beyond silly forms of segregation like the caste system. I take it a degree further and look at it as a caste system for humanity. "I know it too well that if one call is given by a mullah to kill the hindu neighbour , your muslim friend would do so without asking any question." Capt. Sharma, I too have grown up with Muslim friends and given an option to kill someone I would come for idiots like you who can't look beyond a mans religion.  
  Amresh Bhojpuri  
  04 Nov 2009  
   
 
  Was the judgement decided on the merits / demerits of the case or was it one of the preecedents of todays Ruchika / Rathore case, where the judge was prejudiced because it was Gandhi who was killed. Leave alone brahmin which seems to be a taboo to talk about. Is it relevant in todays context, Not at All. Is justice prevailing after 62 years and are we better than 1947 , Reality does not reflect. God bless India.  
  Chandru  
  27 Dec 2009  
   
 
  The speech which you presented here is only brief----Some days back i was going through a magazine of year1948 available in the library There i came to know that he had siud also that the ash of dead body of Gandhi was flown in all the rivers of the world except that of Pakistan--It is insult to Gandhi -----  
  Munir Ahmad  
  02 Jan 2010  
   
 
  THANKS A LOT TO THE PUBLISHER OF THIS VALUABLE.DOCUMENT. BEING A HINDU BRAHMIN I CAN SAY THAT WE NEED MORE PEOPLE LIKE REVERD LATE NATHU RAM GODSE.HE STOOD AGAINST THE ODDS AND THE SHATTERED IMAGE OF GANDHI HAD FORCED HIM TO FIRE BULLETS ON HIS IDEAL OF CHILDHOOD.ANY SENSIBLE PERSON SHOULD THINK THAT GODSE WAS NOT A CONTRACT KILLER. HE WAS AN EDITOR AND A PATRIOT.HE FOLLOWED GANDHI EARLIER.SO WHAT WENT SO WRONG THAT HE TOOK SUCH A STEP.IF WE SEE THE HISTORY OF MUSLIMS THEN RIGHT FROM THE STARTING THEY HAVE BEEN VERY MUCH AGGRESSIVE AND MOST OF THEIR FOLLOWERS IN INDIA ARE RESULT OF RELIGIOUS CONVERSIONS.THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN THE FOLLOWERS OF GANDHI'S SO CALLED NON- VIOLENCE.THEIR HARDLINER LOBBY ALWAYS TRIED TO INCREASE THEIR FOLLOWERS BY FORCE AND HINDUS HAVE BEEN THEIR VICTIMS. EVEN OUR GOVERNMENTS HAVE NOT PROVIDED THE SOLUTION.CONSEQUENTLY THE HINDUS ARE FACING THE PERIL OF DRASTIC PERCENTAGE DECREASE IN THEIR FOLLOWERS.SO I BELIEVE THAT WHATEVER THE STAND GANDHI HAS TAKEN IT WAS NOT ALWAYS TRUE.HIS WAY OF FIGHTING WAS JUST SUICIDAL.AND HE WAS HAVING A FOLLOWER LIKE NEHRU , WHOSE AFFAIR IS STILL A TALK OF THE TOWN AMONG YOUTHS.SO IT SHOWS THAT GANDHI COULD NOT INFLUENCE HIS OWN SUPPORTERS.SO WHATEVER NATHURAM DID IT WAS ACTUALLY RIGHT IN THAT TIME FRAME FOR THE NATION AND FOR HINDUS.HE SHOWED THE WHOLE NATION THAT WHEN IT COMES TO SACRIFICE FOR THE RACE AND NATION A BRAHMIN CAN TAKE THE STEP FOR WHICH OTHERS HESITATE.AND IT WAS THE CONGRESS WHO GLORIFIED THE IMAGE OF GANDHI AND CARRIED THE SYMPATHY. SO IN SHORT IT PROVES THAT “ALL THAT GLITTERS IS NOT GOLD’’.EVEN OUR GLORIFIED SO CALLED “ FATHER OF THE NATION “WAS ALSO A MAN OF BLUNDERS…AND WE SHOULD NOT JUDGE ANY ONE WRONG BY THE PRJUDICE.WHATEVER NATHU RAM DID IT WAS NOT WRONG AS JUSTICE KHOSLA’S OBSERVATIONS PROVE.SO NOW EVERY HINDU SHOULD SERIOUSLY THINK FOR PROTECTING HIS RELIGIOUS RIGHTS WITHOUT BEING LENIENT ANY MORE WITH KEEPING HARMONY.WE SHOULD MAKE OUR PLANS AND EXECUTE THEM BY KEEPING THE WORST CASE IN MIND. WAKE UP HINDUS!!!!!!!!!!!  
  VAGISH MISHRA  
  18 Jan 2010  
   
 
  I think nathuram godse had done write think by killing gandhi ji.He was the only person blamed for making pakistan,dividing india in two parts to save his vote bank and made it impossibleword to reunit them.The impossible word is combination of word i am possible and it will be one on one day but some people did not want that india pakistan the two brothers get reunit.We will prove them wrong and will be one in near future.  
  ANKITA PARKASH  
  26 Jan 2010  
   
 
  I belive that the aforementioned document shows us the impeccable sense of patriotism.I behold Mr. Godse in the Highest possible respect and I also find myself in a cent percent agreement with his Ideology. Thank you again for such a good effort.. regards ASJ  
  Hellshrieks  
  28 Jan 2010  
   
 
  I am a Indian Christian, and love my country and am proud of being an Indian. I stumbled upon this article while following a Wikipedia link. Although I was a topper in History M.A., I was unaware of such a statement form Nathuram Godse- it shows how our historians are biased and erases and conveniently forgets vital pieces of history! The point bought up by Godse that the so called non- violence and secularism eventually brought about Pakistan, a theocratic state fostering so much bloody violence is a revelation of sorts. Gandhi's myopia and Nehru's hurry to become PM might have forced them to accept Partition, but that has cost not this country alone, but the whole world dearly in the form of insecurity and conflict that is now coming out of Pakistan. Their momentary fallacy has made us the latter generations pay with blood for their foolishness. If Pakistan was not there harboring the likes of Kasab, we could have lived without the fear of being blown up or shot to pieces while we went on with our lives! But I still wonder why we are yet to rectify and correct that fallacy even after six decades. Godse's life and Gandhi's blood- both expended for India, albeit in different ways- have been wasted by subsequent generations, I reckon!  
  YELDO  
  30 Jan 2010  
   
 
  Nathuram godse killed gandhi, but before killing gandhi one should kileed Nehru who has the ambition to become Prime Minister of India. Had gandhi accepted Jinnah as PM of Hindustan division of this country in three parts can be avoided. Jinnah could survive only 6- 7 months after India got her freedom from Britishers. Alas Godse took the decision so late , he should have killed Gandhi and Nehru before Indina independence. and Patel who united several princelystates of India should be come PMofi undivided India. It was hardluck of Indian people that Subash Bose whose death mystery is still in our mind could survue and India future could be averted. what we get more than 60 yearsof india's independence, born of terrorist country like Pakistan, who conceives terrorist and send them to India. The muslims of India are by heart with Pakistan. Gandhi created a caste based communiti,which cretes reservations for Hindus in a Hindu dominated country and deprived them to be called as Hindus. shame.........shame.......shame........  
  Lalit Kumar  
  30 Jan 2010  
   
 
  The sheer absurdity of the comments above shock me. Gandhi never claimed he had come up with idea of non violence, he credited it to Henry Thoreau, the great American Philosopher from Boston, Massachusets. There were other influences too. Gandhi never agreed to the partition of India and was strongly opposed to it stating that it would come back to haunt India. He had proposed that Jinha be permitted to be the 1st Prime Minister of India as he knew otherwise the British who so desparately wished to divide India would encourage Jinha to demand for a Muslim State, they even concealed that Jinha was terminally ill with Tuberculosis and kept him alive with all the resources the British Raj could muster. Gandhi withdrew from the debate when Nehru and other members of Congress insited that India should not and could not have a Muslim for its 1st Prime minister. This was motivated by self interest on the part of Nehru. Gandhi had insisted if Jinha was made Prime Minister(care taker) he would then have to stand for re-election in 5 yrs and the citizens of India would have the opportunity to elect their own PM. They say a prophet is often rejected in his own land; to vilify Gandhi is the twisted reasoning of Godse trying to justify his henious act of violence, Gandhi himself considered he was irrelevant in post Independant India and chose to resign himself to his religious pursuits. Godse's Avatars have reared their ugly heads in the form of Shiva Sena and BJP who by the very same actions of intolerance and violence gained nothing but noteriety and have been roundly rejected by the Indian electorate. Gandhi's legacy lives on and the world over his concept of non-violence was adopted with success by Mandela in South Africa, Martin Luther King Jr. USA - whose greatest regret was he was unable to meet with Gandhi. Instead of being proud of your hero's like Gandhi who, without violence brought down the biggest Empire the world has ever known (where was the RSS and Godse's mentors for 300 yrs while the British ruled India), justly deserves the title of Father of the Nation and should be revered as such. Godse, on the other hand will be remembered, not as a patriot but a misguided bigot and will go down in the annals of history with the likes of John Wilks Booth and James Earl Ray.  
  JAMES THOMAS  
  30 Jan 2010  
   
 
  This is pity that new generation of Pakistan as well as India is not being taught the facts of history. The column writers in different newspapers of Pakistan have tried some efforts in this regard. -----Mr Jamil ud din Aalee of largest circulated newspaper JANG Karachi had diverted the attention of new generation to wards the fact that Pakistan was in a miserable condition & it was the efforts of Gandhi by which Pakistan received the amount. Mr Aalee said that he was omd enough so he thougt better to tell some facts(Reference JANG dated 7th september 2008) ----Mr Nazir Naji wrote in JANG on 5th. JANUARY 2010 that Pakistan new generation does not know that Gandhi was killed in firing due to Pakistan (Daily JANG 5-1-2010) ----- I myself wrote an article in Daily MUQADAMA Karachi on the eve of death day of Gandhi (29 January 2010)& copied nearly all the speech of God se .However i further mentioned that the some leaders (including Mr Gandhi) were of the opinion that whatever happened be forgotten & the tussle /cold war betweem Pakistan & India be brought to an end & new born countries should try to make prosperous India & pakistan so that they could get some good status /position in the nations of the world --They should mot waste their energies in the mutual fighting  
  Munir Ahmad  
  02 Feb 2010  
   
 
  reference ymy 2nd. Feb comment wherein i described that i have made published a detailed article in MUQADAMA Karachi wherein full speech of Godse has beem narrated ---I have received following remarks from a journalist of Sweden ""You have given the another picture and same I got info from history. It?s very difficult to write true, when all people has fixed their mind. May be many people will not like it but they should present historic evidences.""  
  Munir Ahmad  
  04 Feb 2010  
   
 
  i think that nathuram godse did the right thing by killing gandhi , because gandhi was a jurk and lingered the freedom of india by signing the death papers of bhagat singh , he was a great jurk and history will always remember him for such jurk behaviour , he always wore lots of clothes inside but whenever he came out from his home , that time only to show off he wore a dhoti only.  
  satpreet singh  
  06 Feb 2010  
   
 
  blah!! this person is nuts  
  Anisha  
  16 Feb 2010  
   
 
  IT GOOD TO READ THAT NATHU RAM GODSE IS BHARHIM FAMILY HE DONE VERY GOOD JOB BUT HE DO A VERY CHIP WORK OF GANDHI MURDER VERY SAD  
  Anil Sharma  
  20 Feb 2010  
   
 
  My respects to Godse,Before that the real freedom fighters like Bhagat Singh,Azad and many more.and all are directly or indirectly killed by Nehru & Gandhi for their personal benifits.Earlier we were ruled by Muslims,British Now by Italians .Any body out there can say that we are really living in free India.Now the present govt says all who died for country are terrorists. God Only No God also can't save age. RANG DE BASANTI  
  Sridhar  
  13 Mar 2010  
   
 
  iam R.Sai Sunil a medicine student. Thank u very much for the incidents that happened on that day. U all think that gandhi is bad, even godse thought the same way but no one opposed him right. There are only sayings that gandhi's words were the ultimatum but no one ever did raise it to gandhiji that it is wrong. Even godse did not do it. How much correct do u think of just blindly killing him. I dont think gandhi was like a hitler or any one. If u think gandhi's ideas was a single persons wish, what do u think is godse's action, is that not a single mans desision?  
  sai sunil  
  26 Mar 2010  
   
 
  Thanks so much to publish such a document . According to me godse should be called mahatma not gandhi . Because of congress gandhi freedom fighters like Bhagath singh , subhash chandra bose ,chandra shekar aasad were not even reconized as freedom fighters who realy faught for the country without beeing sefish like gandhi . More than 90% of the INDIANS dont even know the birth date of the real freedom fighters and its only because of congress and Mr Gandhi who played a real dirty politics . JAI HIND  
  vinod  
  03 Apr 2010  
   
 
  what was the role of narayan apte who also hanged with godse. it is true that godse knows that after killing gandhi he will be hanged but if he had injured gandhi by bullet then tell all these things in court it may be benifit to all  
  bharat  
  06 Apr 2010  
   
 
  one piece is missing.There is a book about GODSE by his brother gopal godse who too was accused and convicted in gandhi's murder.In it he described 30 reasons why gandhi was killed.And as i think in today's world when someone kills other for some foolish reasons,like property,dowry,money;30 reasons are more than enough to kill somebody,and also noting that it wasn't for his own personal interests and he also hadn't suffered anything from the partition.He did it for his country. The book was banned by the govt. But my thanks and prayers to the unsung hero who helped INDIA to get some light after the great FATHER OF NATION died. And maybe god fulfill his last wish to get his ashes flown in indus river of undivided INDIA.  
  sidhesh mishra  
  12 Apr 2010  
   
 
  killing cannot be justified.but if its for a cause for reason that will be acepted correct for most of the indian in the coming generation MUST BE valid reason.Godse was sentenced to death but his thinking is a vaild question.this is because action if justified SHOULD BE ACCEPTED." iF SOMEBODY DOESNOT ALLOW ME TO ENTER HIS HOUSE I WILL NOT ALLOW HIM TO ENTER MY HOUSE." AS SIMPLE AS THAT.And source of the killing that took place is definetly due to the reason stated by godse.HAIL GANDI !!!!!this is what everybody wants to hear.gandi no doubt was a great man but this is the place where he falters.......  
  srs  
  17 Apr 2010  
   
 
  Since the times I could understand a little bit of history and to be precise, history of politics...I was never convinced of Gandhiji's views. I have seen a very popular play in Marathi, "Mi Nathuram Godse Bolatoy" in which Nathuram's character is played by a great actor, Sharad Ponkshe. And this play I watched only reconfirmed my views. According to me, it is still a debatable issue to say if Gandhiji allowing Partition was a right decision or not but yes, there is an amount of truth in all Nathuram says...be it this statement or his dialogues in the play! Unfortunately, Gandhiji is glorified to an extent where people like Nathuram Godse, Subhash Chandra Bose and Veer Savarakar are overshadowed at times. That's why and for many more reason, thanks a lot for putting this up! It's time people start seeing the other side of the coin...  
  Sukhada  
  19 Apr 2010  
   
 
  I disagree with Godse’s views on one major point. Gandhi was opposed to partition, however, later succumbed to Congress’s will. The real culprit, if any, was Nehru who alienated a much firmer Sardar Vallabhai Patel from the bid to Prime Minister-ship; and then, played the role of a charismatic diplomat by befriending Mountbatten and his wife (special emphasis on the latter) without being able to authoritatively impose any opinion where it really mattered (when the matter of Partition was being discussed behind closed doors between Nehru, Sardar, Jinnah and the Viceroy). The real winner, was Jinnah, who saw through all the fallacy – a child-like, stubborn Messiah being slowly abandoned by his people (Gandhi); a flowery, conceited politician who could be toyed with easily (Nehru) and a young, confident navy commander, who sought a practical and dangerously swift way to get the British out of India in the least embarrassing way possible (Mountbatten). Immediately after partition, Pakistan unashamedly, began its covert operation in Kashmir. The Hindus and Muslims had yet not come to terms with Radcliffe’s “practical” boundary line which tore through the very soul of India. It was in this atmosphere, that a side-lined Gandhi insisted on paying Pakistan its due money, which would (Congress and Godse rightfully, knew) invariably be used for arms against India itself!! Gandhi had to be stopped. But, Gandhi was more than a man. He was an institution. He was an idea. Hence, the man to stop Gandhi had to be a man who understood Gandhi; an educated, rational- minded, patriotic Hindu … Nathuram Godse. My plea is to let all students have an unbiased access to our history. Books, plays and movies that challenge Gandhi should be given equal importance as those that glorify him. There is much to learn from the mess created by the race to Independence, who tremors are still felt today in the name of terror attacks, anti – Muslim sentiments, Hindu extremist groups etc. Don’t shove it down our throats that Mr. X was a great person… or that Mr. Y was wrong. Let us decide for ourselves. Gandhi was a great man. Perhaps, the greatest of the last century. But, he was not without his faults. For further reading, please do refer to Freedom at Midnight by Domnique Lapiere and Larry Collins; and “Gandhi, Hatya anni Me” (Gandhi, Assassination and Me) by Gopal Godse. Also, the movie “Sardar” potrayed aptly by Paresh Rawal.  
  ash chem  
  20 Apr 2010  
   
 
  I donot believe in the so called hindu-muslim war, i think we as indians after 50+ yrs of independence should mature enuf to understand that we are all human, its not the masses who believe in this divide but the ppl guiding the masses.I m nt a gandhiest bt i beleve in gandhism , and as a human being even he has da rights to make mistakes , it was nt he he who was wrong , it was we who didnt hav the guts to say that he did wrong weather it was the partition or nything else..... naturam godse didnt do smthing to cheer about , it wud hav been better if he wud hav stood against mahatma and did smthing to stop the partition .Its high tym we stop blaming mahatma gandhi do smthing 2 make aur country gr8 ,"we still hav tym if we want to"  
  sugandha  
  02 May 2010  
   
 
  Sugandha your thoughts are too immature  
  Dr. Rakesh Ranjan  
  06 May 2010  
   
 
  It's very informative and nice document. oneday, people will realize that how congrs is making divide & rule the india.. by intrudicing so many prgrms on cast/religion basis.. so many centuries, india was ruled by others becuz they were able to divide the nation(by casts/religion basis) and rule the india.. the same thing is doing now by congrs.. India will never develop like powerful country as long as people belive the dirty politicians tricks..  
  venkat  
  16 May 2010  
   
 
  i agree with sai sunil  
  shahnawaz  
  25 May 2010  
   
 
  Wonderful document,not because I support anyone but i feel each n every Indian should read this article. Always there are two sides of the coin,and this is the other side.No one is god here,everyone makes mistakes and Gandhiji and Nehruji also did.I strongly oppose those anti muslim thing,but yes I believe PARTITION was not the only solution.Partition only aggrevated Hindu-Muslim system.We all are humans and lets not forget this(Applicable for Hindus and Muslims as well).  
  Siddhita  
  27 May 2010  
   
 
  Let me being by saying i believe in peace more then violence or non violence. I know when i say peace it relates to non violence. Peace is when i dont trouble others for my selfish needs, Where everthing is in harmony. But yes if some one tries to disturb my peace then dont wait till he is done with his violence or wait for him to come to peace. I have got just one life like others and have full right to enjoy it as long as no one is getting hurt. Well said Siddhita. Lets not fight on who is right or wrong. But try and find a solution now........ But reading of what people are talking here would like to add something. Thinking of which i would like to ask Siddhita a question, What would you do if some guy from other country or any where kills your loved once because he wants to live in your house or likes your house or is selfish and wants to live in a awesome house because he is greed or any xyz reason. How will you feel considering we are all humans. Then you should be able to forget it and be fine. To kill someone and give your self in has to come with some level of guts. Godse knew it was suicide but he still did it with out thinking of himself. Do you call it act of a murderer. I dont think so. Then all the Jawans getting killed on the border are just wasting their lives so we can live happily. Mr. R Sai Sunil if it was that easy to tell Gandhi that he was wrong and he would stop it. So do you think something in wrong in our todays system why dont you go and tell them they will stop. JAMES THOMAS - I dont think Mr.Gandhi was also there for 300 years. He was 79 when he died. He came to india in 1915. No doubt he has done great things that does not mean his mistake are to be forgotten. He did a fast to give pakistan what they want then why dint he fast so that they dont divide the country. He was at his peak people would have opted for that too. To be a great soul you have to do the right things not give in too situations. Non violence is nice but many lost their lifes too. British knew if people like Bhagat Singh got things done their way they would be in a bad state. Gandhi was the best option out. Things that happened were very situational. Its been 63 years now, And congress is been ruling since then we dont even know half the things on paper or books how far is it true. A party ruling for such a long time could have manipulate so many things. Why did they BAN Gopal Godse's book were they scared of something. People have their brains to judge what is right or wrong. Aren't we a democratic country. By talking about Shiv Sena , BJP and their action how do we know Congress is right they started the ruling and we have been ruled by them since. So lets now get todays Politics in what happened when it all started. This article is about Godse and if what he wrote has any truth then with his state of mind at that point in time he did a very brave job. Killing is wrong but what else could he do. Someone said a write thing should have killed Nehru too for being so selfish.  
  Saiprasad Shetty  
  03 Jun 2010  
   
 
  after going through all the comments, can only say that no one from above, knows the history. all have their matured views even before reading this article. one only hear what he wants to. everyone has his own interpretation of Godse's speech. pls don't. it would not be fair to Godse or Gandhi. you should first go and read about the lives of both and not what has been written because it is not always the truth. go and find the truth and then comment. have been following Gandhi's life history for long now and have studied a lot of material, both written and otherwise. i'm not a Gandhi fan at all. but we have to agree that there was something about him that millions of people followed him blindly. even Bhagat Singh or Nathuram Godse were initially Gandhi followers. it was later on that they changed the lanes with due respect to their thoughts. as Bhagat Singh once said that Gandhi's style of non-violence or pacifism is the highest degree of violence. now this statement can be read in its true spirit or can be mis-interpreted. so best is - go do your research if you really feel so strongly about any subject and if not then refrain from such public display of immature levels. Cheers!!!  
  Navratan Dev  
  07 Jun 2010  
   
 
  What articles are you talking about Navratan. Nobody is says anything about Gandhi being bad or great. Why did Bhagat Singh or Nathuram Godse change is what this article is all about.  
  Saiprasad  
  08 Jun 2010  
   
 
  You said that “Go & Know about their lives first before you quote...” I believe you must have been a freedom fighter born along with Gandhi that you are claiming the comments of the readers are at immature level. You do not know me neither my life... You was not present while the time I born/ neither with me. How would you judge me? It’s your thought which keeps you alive forever. Why do you praise The Great Shivaji Maharaj (Not sure if you praise, but I do) is the reason because today you can claim that you are Hindu. There is a term called Salvation, which can not be done with non-violence strategy or you got to sacrifice your life. I would rather advice people to go and read more about Hinduism, at least to get your base stronger about your own Religion... Believe in Hinduism. Lets get the caste system out of our way… it’s the biggest enemy & strongest poison in our life. Thanks for being patient & understanding the comment.  
  Anonym  
  10 Jun 2010  
   
 
  this is really a nice piece of document,we must owe to every freedom fighter who has given their lives for the independence of india,many leaders like subhash chandra bose, bhagat singh,azad thought freedom from foreign to india is more important than their lives. but so called father of nation and our first prime minster of india we sitting in delhi and appease the britishers and begging them for freedom. i dont believe that muslims are not part of india every person who love this soil is a part of india may be hindu or muslim but for appeasing one community one should not hurt the feelings of majority everyone has a equal right on this nation. only a dynamic leadership would take the country forward not the country. godse is a real patriot  
  rahul  
  11 Jun 2010  
   
 
  and one more thing in the name of secularism we must not be try to appease one community. i really respect our prime minister manmohan singh but once he said the first right on the resource and development of this nation is for muslims. it is very false statement this is was congress stand is. it should the poor people of the country who have first right on this nation resource and development we are living in a false secularism.may be hindu or muslim it doesnt matter everyone is equal in this country.why does great leader like netaji, bhagat singh and all other leaders who died for this nation doesnt receive the same respect and importance as recieved by gandhi and nehru is that because they doesnt belong to congress?  
  rahul  
  11 Jun 2010  
   
 
  i do not know who actually was right and who actually was wrong...but man cannot always be right in his deeds........so even the 'mahatma' could have made a grievous mistake that made godse who was a true believer of gandhi, to take his life.....  
  Hibu akha  
  22 Jun 2010  
   
 
  First of all thank you for posting such article. read all comments & stunned to know many facts about our history (which our politicians hid from us, even they banned book by Mr. Gopal Godse, which should not happen in secular, free country like India) . I have seen marathi play "Mi Nathuram Godse boltoy". I reuest all of u to see this play(unfortunately it iss only in marathi). Wht made Godse to kill Gandhi (his childhood idol)? Sugadha & sai sunil - as per my knowledge Nathuram did whatever he cud to raise his voice against partition & Gandhi's decision, out side bal bhavan. he was editor for Agrani. Wiki - Godse started a Marathi newspaper for Hindu Mahasabha called Agrani, which some years later was renamed. Hindu Rashtra. He raised voice against giving 55 crores to Pakistan. But all in vain. Pls watch this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BreRTGb1ZQ&feature=related , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIn5YTLRb7s&feature=related - (its in marathi, if u want i will translate it for you.) one nice exm given in this video - 1 hindu told Nathuram to ask Gandhi to break his fast by drinking blood of his 8 yrs old son, who was killed by muslims. (We haven't seen slaughter of our relatives, rapes of our mother & sisters, pain of partition, so its easy for us to discuss that Gandhi's decision for partition was rght or wrong. But those ppl suffer that agony. I think this is the answer Why did Bhagat Singh or Nathuram Godse changed. 1) partition was not necessary. Gandhi took that decision (be it under pressure of congress) but on cost of many indian(hindu+muslims)lives. human bound to make mistake, but when u are term as father of nation its your responsibility to take decisions which should be correct, in interest of ppl of ur nation & not under influence of any person or political party.. This decision was wrong. 2) giving 55 crores to pakistan was wrong. 3) called for an end to the Non-cooperation movement after chauri chaura was wrong. 4) he never asked for complete freedom. There was neither personal benefit, political agenda behind Gandhi's assassination nor Mr. Godse was maniac. it was a thoughtful process & only Gandhi was targeted because he was think tank behind congress party & his thousands followers & his ideas were single persons's wish. Sai Sunil - If u think gandhi's ideas was a single persons wish, what do u think is godse's action, is that not a single mans desision? you should remember that even before independance Gandhi was most powerful leader in india, father of nation & one can not expect single person wish from such person & Such single person wish affected many Indian lives. While Godse's single man's decision affected only 3 lives. I dont disrespect/neglect Gandhi's sacrifice, wht he did for country. But certainly he is not father of nation. he did many blunders, took selfish decisions.A person can not be greater than nation & thats why he was murdered. I appreciate VAGISH MISHRA views - Gandhi's way of fighting were suicidal, self/our religion defense is necessary. James Thomas - Gandhi never agreed to the partition of India and was strongly opposed to it stating that it would come back to haunt India. ---- but he didnt went for hunger strike at that time(as usually he did for other issues), he had the ability to stop the partition, but he didnt try or kneel down before congress wht say? Also British left India coz they had heavy loses in WW2, else it wudnt had been possible with non voilence. ---where was the RSS and Godse's mentors for 300 yrs while the British ruled India wht do u called Shivaji Maharaj's war against moguls & british? Tilak, savarkar, bose were also doing same against british. if they wud have been in this world for a while, India wud gained independance long before 1947. DR SUNIL JAGADISH RAO , please dont give statement on behalf of any community (a majority of brahmins (me included) do not suscribe to his view). State wht u think. u dont represent a community/ group of ppl. Gandhi was lived for his values/principles but Mr. Godse died for the same.  
  swapnil  
  08 Jul 2010  
   
 
  I salute Late Mr. Nathuram Godse & his sacrifice for the country. By hanging Nathuram & putting "hey Ram" words in dying Gandhi's mouth(Gandhi never said that), Gandhi's own followers demolish Gandhi's principle of non-voilence & secularism. We need nathuram in this era also to demolish the congress, which still ruining our country(not favoring any other existing political party). Goverment should publish the facts to public, lift ban on book by Gopal Godse, let the ppl know dirty facts about the politicians & let them decide wht is rght n wht is wrong?  
  swapnil  
  08 Jul 2010  
   
 
  I salute late Mr. Nathuram Godse for his thoughts and respect for greart warriors of Bharat (India). Mr. Gandhi was not a wise man but he sould have left to die with his own fate. I am sorry that Gandhi had painless death. Why Mr. Gandhi was not allowed to visit Amritsar by students of Khalsa college?  
  Inderjeet Kaur Sandhu  
  18 Jul 2010  
   
 
  Godse was not a patriot.He was just a hindu extremist  
  Khan  
  19 Jul 2010  
   
 
  Godse's speech is interesting because it is articulate and emotionally detached. It's also reflective of the mindset of radical Hindus of the time. But many of his statements are either born of ignorance, or intentional half-truths—Gandhi fought hard against the partition of India, after all. Did he not fight hard enough, or was there no stopping that ball once it began rolling? Who are you and I to say? Godse's allegiance is also socially inclusive—As he openly admits, his compassion is only for Hindus. In the end, just a murderer with a heart filled with prejudice.  
  Raj  
  27 Jul 2010  
   
 
  I dont know who was more right and just. But i can surely say nobody is perfect. Gandhi never claimed to be perfect. He tried his best to free our nation from the strides of British rules also tried his best so that our society will not be divided. And we can move as a unified country in world. If i have to give an example i would say that even the reservation in higher education and government sector is a modern politics strategy to move along and with those who are left behind, though many people mourn this move. In short i just want to say that i dont think that what Gandhi did was wrong, at that time our society was falling apart, our leaders dint have any strategy to go on about this. And if you say that go on killing every one in your way is courage, then i guess u must redefine your concept of courage. In that situation Gandhi showed as way to to fight in moral and just way. And about appeasing muslim, y do we always forget that even they were part of this nation, though mournfully because of selfish reasons of some they had to separate. And as far as nathuram concerned i think he just saw glass half empty. He did wat he think was right out of his ignorance. Remember this u can win a war, or claim a teriitory with physical weapon, but u need love to win someone. i always believed in gandhi, though i regret some of his action. We can always criticize sitting our rooms and reading to some journals, but it takes lot to actually hold on to sumthin so valuable and precious.  
  Neeraj Mishra  
  30 Jul 2010  
   

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