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Perivaar: stop converting Hindus; stop USCIRF  
HH Swami Jayendra Saraswati Ji
13 Jun 2009

[Yesterday, Swami Jayendra Saraswati Ji, Sankaracharya of Kanchi Kamakoti Matham, met Cardinal Jean-Louis Pierre Tauran, president of Vatican’s Pontifical Council for Inter-religious Dialogue, and others, in Mumbai for a Hindu-Catholic dialogue. The meeting was closed door, but informed sources said it was high voltage and shut the door on future dialogue unless all church denominations agree to eschew conversions. Below is the text of the prepared speech of Pujya Perivaar, which He relied upon when making His presentation – Editor]



1] Exactly one month ago to the date, the Pope went to Jerusalem where Jesus was born, for a similar dialogue that the Vatican had undertaken with the Chief Rabbinate of Israel. At the end of that meeting when the Pope and Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi Yona Metzer jointly addressed the Press and Media, the Chief Rabbi thanked the Pope for assuring the Chief Rabbinate that the Catholic Church would desist and cease from all missionary and conversion activities among the Jews. This is construed as endorsed and agreed by the Pope since he was present in the press meet. We need a similar commitment from the Church for Hindus.


2] After such inter-faith meetings, the points agreed have to be faithfully abided. Otherwise the will be no point in holding such meetings. Unless the Church reassures Hindus that it will not conduct itself in a manner that wounds Hindu sensibilities and follows up on those assurances, such inter-faith meetings, no matter how frequently they are held, will be futile and will not serve any meaningful cause.


3] In 1999, Pope Johan Paul II had stated that the mission of the Vatican was to plant the Cross in Asia in the third millennium to facilitate the Christianizing of the world, which alone would cause the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. The Pope must tell us the rationale for the First Coming of Jesus Christ when there was no Christianity or the Church to undertake the mission to Christianize the world.


4] We see the USCIRF (US Commission on International Religious Freedom) as an intrusive mechanism of a foreign government to interfere in the internal affairs of this country. The USCIRF, which has been permitted to visit this country to hold meetings with our people to ascertain religious freedom in our country, must no longer be permitted to enter this country on this intrusive mission. We will not allow external interference into our internal affairs.


5] We know that very large amounts of money come into this country for Churches and Christian groups, ostensibly for charitable work. These funds should be used only for social causes like health, education etc and should not be used for religious conversion. During these dialogues, it should be agreed that the funds should be distributed to all Organisations who do charitable work, irrespective of the organisations’ religious faith. A common pool should be created and a Committee formed to distribute and monitor the usage of these funds.


6] It has become easy for the Missionaries to convert Hindus. All Hindu Organisations and Associations should work together to educate Hindus and eradicate the conversion activity.


7] Hindu dharma is by nature diverse and so all different panthas and sampradayas co-exist on this bhumi without seeking to destroy the others. Hindu dharma has nurtured and supported all faiths and religions because that is the way of dharma. We expect that religions which have come into this bhumi from other lands will respect this vital characteristic of Hindu dharma and not do anything to subvert or disturb the sense of nationhood of this country. Hindu dharma and the Hindu people welcome Christians and Muslims, Parsis and Jews to make this land their home. We expect from these religions that they will not seek to destroy our faith, our religion and wound our religious sensibilities. We encourage all religions to live with mutual respect and harmony in a shared sense of nationalism which should bind us all as one nation. Nationalism should come first.


8] We are aware of the preaching that they [church] will cure diseases and ailments if the individual converts to their faith. This is illegal as per the DRUGS AND MAGIC REMEDIES ACT 1954.


9] Most of the countries in the world (USA, UK, Japan, Middle-east nations, Pakistan, Sri Lanka etc.), adopt national resolutions and statements of intent proclaimed by their governments and their tallest religious bodies, affirming their determination to protect and defend the culture and the religion from which their cultures derive. In India alone we pass resolutions which officially and legally promote an irreligious and unspiritual creed called secularism. Secularism is an administrative quality; it cannot be the soul of this nation. The soul of this nation is religious and spiritual. We call upon our government and other important religious bodies to recognize this truth and affirm their commitment to protect the soul of this nation.


10] The Buddhist Mahasangha and the Joint Committee of Buddhist Organizations have declared their intention to get the Sri Lankan government to pilot and pass a national anti-conversion Bill and make it law. We welcome this move and strongly endorse this measure.


11] The Church in India must stop forthwith the use of Hindu religious words, phrases and symbols like Veda, Agama, Rishi, Ashrama, Om and other such in what is referred to as ‘inculturation’ tactics, but which are only intended to deceive the vulnerable sections of our people who are the intended targets for religious conversion. This is also insulting to and wounding the religious sensitivities of Hindus. Similarly it has been brought to our notice that some churches are scripting a new Bible for the new converts by usurping sections of our sacred Vedas, Upanishads and Puranas and incorporating them into the Bible. This must stop immediately and all such Bibles must be withdrawn from circulation. We urge the Indian government to look into the issue and do the needful.

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  User Comments:
 
  Grateful for providing your humble readers what Pujya Swami Jayendra Saraswati Ji, Sankaracharya of Kanchi Kamakoti Matham told the missionaries. I would appreciate if you would tell us what other self styled Hindu representatives like Mr Sri Ravishankar & Swami Chidanand Saraswati from Divine Life spoke during the meeting. I know you have good sources to convey your readers what exactly transpired with the religious imperialists in Mumbai. Prabhu Jagannath is Great. At least, there was a strong voice. For, I never trusted the rest. Pranam Sandhyaji.  
  Kuna Mohanty  
  13 Jun 2009  
   
 
  In addition to the above, Christian groups in the guise of helping the poor must withdraw all 'caste' related material from their websites. Christianity has nothing to do with 'caste' or Hinduism and they must forthwith stop propagating invented concepts like 'dalit christians, muslims etc'. Such concepts are illegal and unconstitutional. If the poor are to be helped, their birth-identity should not be relevant.  
  Ramesh  
  13 Jun 2009  
   
 
  This declaration as per Kanchi Peeth Swamijee is as it should have been. After all this Peeth had its first Pontiff Adi Shankaraachaarya. This appears to be the reason for participating in this dialogue by the Respected Swamijee  
  Mukund  
  14 Jun 2009  
   
 
  Mukunda, Kanchi is neither a "PEETH" nor was established by Adi Shankara as such. here are only 4 PEETH established by Shankara. Kanchi is a mutt, very influencial, yes but its a mutt.  
  Nithin Sridhar  
  14 Jun 2009  
   
 
  You are quite wrong Nithin Sridhar. Kanchi is very much a Peetham. In fact, Devi Kamakshi, the presiding deity of Sri Kamatchi Amman Temple is right on top of the "Yantra" placed (Prathishta) by Shri Adi Sankara inside the sanctum sanctorum. He later established the fifth Peetham as Kanchi Kamakoti Peetham. When certain vestd interests filed a case in the court of law, the Kanchi Peetham won the case after establishing the truth by producing enough eviences and proofs with regards to Adi Sankara's aarival in Kanchi and the establishment of the Peetham.  
  A.Sudhan  
  15 Jun 2009  
   
 
  Actually, it is Sringeri that has to prove its credentials as an ancient peetham. It has no authoritative historical record prior to Vijaya Nagara. It has had one or two great pontiffs like Shankar Tirtha and Vidyaranya, and some historians argue that Shankar Tirtha was the first pontiff. But it also sponsored Tipu Sultan, performing yagnas for him and giving him astrological advice (so that he would have a successful day killing Hindus?). Its autonomy and prestige come from the British not a Hindu king, who gave it a regal position and some autonomy with the powers of a magistrate. Sringeri has much to explain and answer for before its criticizes the Kamakoti Peetham.  
  Kadaitswami  
  16 Jun 2009  
   
 
  I wish the Hindu organisations could set up educational centres ,hospitals ,vocational centres and orphanages for the welfare of the downtrodden amongst us regardless of cast and creed with a missionary zeal and involve big industrial houses in such programmes . This would go a long way in protecting our downtrodden from being forced into conversions .  
  Dr. Nirmal Raina  
  18 Jun 2009  
   
 
  Dr. Nirmal Raina, but this is exactly what Hindus have been doing. Let's consider 4 prominent cases. Kanchi Shankaracharya (Tamil Nadu), Swami Lakshmanananda (Orissa), Swami Amritananda Dev Tirtha (PoK) and Swami Aseemanand (Gujarat). And of course, what happened to them. (1) The Kanchi Shankaracharya was helping Hindus in Tamil Nadu, such as working for Harijan communities. See for instance Sandhya Jain's "Dalits: Kanchi leads the way" from November 2002 at http://www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php?type=ARTICLES&id=1100994245) and this was actually slowing conversions. Then in 2004, conspiracy was hatched to frame Kanchi Shankaracharya in a murder. As Sandhya explained in "Justice must be seen to be done" (copy at http://www.vigilonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=68&Itemid=57): "Swamiji hit the conversion industry where it most hurt. He aimed at building a temple in every Dalit village and in giving personal darshan in each village. His Chandrasekharendra Maha Vishwavidyalaya, a Deemed University, controls several educational and medical institutions, which serve the villages and challenge missionary monopoly in these sectors. In Tamil Nadu, the cognoscenti feel American evangelists planned the whole sordid affair." The result: christian convert police tortured Kanchi Shankaracharya when he was imprisoned (see http://www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php?type=NEWS&id=1100618030) and also tried to force the vegetarian Swami to eat meat, while deliberately denying him even the fruits he asked for. They also kept him in a snake-infested jail (http://sankaracharyaarticles.blogspot.com/2004/12/alarming-jail-conditions-reported.html) whereas these conditions were thought too inhumane to house other prisoners in. And the reason: http://www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php?id=1110825027&type=news "Even now the seer is being harassed and victimized and all this is happening at the behest of the Central government. It is under pressure from Christian missionaries who have been destabilized by Shankaracharya. The number of hospitals, school and charity organisations opened by him came as a boon for the poor people," Sudarshan told thousands of party workers at a conclave in Mangalore.  
  NightStalker  
  19 Jun 2009  
   
 
  In response to Dr. Nirmal Raina, continued from above. (2) To learn what great good Swami Lakshmanananda was doing for Hindus in Orissa (particularly Vanavasis and Harijan), see "Vedanta Keshri Swami Laxmananda Saraswati" at http://www.haindavakeralam.com/hkpage.aspx?PageID=7064&SKIN=B, "The saint who resisted missionary menace" at http://www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php?type=NEWS&id=1145978120 and "The man, his death, and the madness" at http://www.indianexpress.com/news/the-man-his-death-and-the-madness/364980/1. In 2008 Swami Lakshmananda and 4 other Hindu sages with him were massacred by christians. That they were christians and christian maoists is even admitted by the newspaper variously called The Chindu and The Christist (since it's now headed by the quite christian-inclined marxist N Ram) at http://hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/001200810051766.htm "Majority of Maoist supporters in Orissa are Christians" which states that "a prominent Maoist leader has said there was reportedly pressure from both Christians and Dalits to eliminate VHP leader Laxmanananda Saraswati" and "Christians were major support base of the (maoist) outfit in Orissa". Rather like Naxal Ram himself. Christians murdered Swami Lakshmananda in 2008 after they had already attempted some 9 attempts on his life, such as in 2007, when a christian mob attacked the Swami brutally and landed this 80 something year-old selfless worker in hospital (http://blogs.ivarta.com/Christian-Attack-Hindu-Conversions-Orissa-Swami/blog-58.htm). That Swami Lakshmanananda's murder was a christian conspiracy against his life, is documented in "Christist conspiracy in assassination of Swami Lakshamananda: evidence" http://vivekajyoti.blogspot.com/search/label/Lakshmananda%20Swami (data collated by Dr Kalyanaraman). Just as a point of interest, the same christian maoists of Orissa have since threatened the life of the Puri Shankaracharya as well, for being anti-conversion (in normal speak: for opposing christian terrorism). See "Maoists warns Puri Seer with dire consequence" at http://www.odishatoday.com/orissa/Maoists_warns_Puri_Seer_with_dire_consequence_171208-3587327918.html Then on 2nd June 2009, Puri's "Swami Ramcharandas famous as Mauni baba who participated actively in the protest against the killing of Laxmanananda Saraswati last year was chased and hacked to death by unidentified assailants in Puri on Tuesday." While "Hindu Seer Hacked to death again in Orissa, Police float Secular Theories" (http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=8753&SKIN=B), the real directors of this crime become clear when one realises that "Das was an active member of the Matha Mahanta organisation of Orissa. In the aftermath of Saraswati's killing last year,he took the lead in the protest against the VHP leader's murder." The true villainy becomes clearer still when by 5 June 2009, the same old christian maoists of Orissa "threaten to kill BJP MLA Pradhan" because he of course "is a main follower of Swami Laxmananda Saraswati". And that "Besides Pradhan, four members of the Bajrang Dal also figure in the hit-list. It was alleged that the Maoists getting support of a few churches have started targeting members of the various Hindu outfits." (See http://www.dailypioneer.com/181002/Maoists-threaten-to-kill-BJP-MLA-Pradhan.html)  
  NightStalker  
  19 Jun 2009  
   
 
  (3) Swami Aseemanand (Jatin Chatterjee) runs the Vanvasi Kalyan Ashram working among Hindus (especially Vanavasis) in Gujarat, see Sandhya Jain's "Monotheists clamour for tribal harvest" at http://www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php?type=ARTICLES&id=1098222929. And Swami Aseemanand was also part of the organisation behind the Shabari Kumbh Mela in Dang in Gujarat, which attracted large numbers of Hindus (especially Vanavasis) and was a major set back to evangelism/christian terrorism in Gujarat. When the conspiracy of "Hindu Terror" was hatched, Swami Aseemanand became another in the list of persons whom the christian inquisition, through the ATS, has tried its best to obtain and frame for the "Hindu Terror" fraud they concocted (see Radha Rajan's writing "ATS - There is method in their madness" at http://vivekajyoti.blogspot.com/2008_11_01_archive.html and http://offstumped.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/praveen-swami-lets-the-cat-out-of-the-bag/). For a similar example, which is about the christian terrorist organisation in Nagaland, see Aravindan Neelakandan's "NLFT - The Christian Al-Qaeda" at http://www.hvk.org/specialrepo/hate/ann2.html. It states "The greatest challenge to the Bible inspired mission of the NLFT comes from the Sangh Parivar's Banbasi Kalyan Kendra. The dedicated life workers of RSS have started empowering the tribals by running many educational institutions which while empowering them through imparting secular technical education also retain their tribal cultural and spiritual identity. Rather than making them disown their roots, the Kendra made the tribals feel proud of their culture. It even conducts national level tribal sports festivals. If the NLFT is to carve out a kingdom for Christ out of the secular republic of India, it has to make sure that the Kendra activities are stopped at all costs. In July 2000, armed NLFT militants torched a residential school and students hostel run by the Seva Mission in the remote Ananda Bazar area of North Tripura[5]. They had also taken hostage four RSS life workers. These RSS workers were all in their sixties. The crime committed by these old men was that they had dared to run educational institutions for tribals while preserving the tribals' culture. Later, all four were killed by the NLFT." (4) Sandhya Jain's posting of Swami Amritananda Dev Tirtha's statements at http://www.vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayArticle.aspx?id=318 explain how Swami Amritananda Dev Tirtha is the Shankaracharya of the PoK-based Sri Sharada Sarvagya Peeth where he was selflessly working. The christian inquisition, using its secular arm of the "ATS" on the matter of the "Hindu Terror" concoction, have already framed and brutally tortured Swami Amritananda Dev Tirtha (whose name is NOT Dayanand Pandey unlike what the christian-owned English language media in India have been spreading). The christian inquisition wanted to do the same to Swami Aseemanand of point 3 above. (The christian inquisition also framed and tortured the Sadhvi Pragyan Singh Thakur, the Indian soldier Purohit and the retired Indian soldier Upadhyay for the same.) If you knew all this already, then why would you say that Hindus have not been doing anything or not much or not enough for helping Hindus? A significant number have not only been devoting their lives to helping Hindus, but thanks to christianism and islamism, they have in fact been DYING, have been TORTURED, have been BRUTALLY ATTACKED (ending up in hospital) for serving their fellow Hindus. ONE LAST THING: there is no point for Hindus to continue to help people "regardless of CREED" as you say (and which they have long been doing) when certain murderous creeds keep murdering Hindus. We don't need to help these only so that they can continue to kill and brutalise our people. Therefore, the problem is not that Hindus are not doing great work for the betterment of Hindus - which many are. The problem is that christianism (and its twins islamism and communism) are systematically murdering or otherwise terrorising all these key people, exactly in order to thwart their works.  
  NightStalker  
  19 Jun 2009  
   
 
  Now a days you can see many novice nuns move about in sarees resembling saffron cloth. The gullible public will take them to be Hindu sanyasinis.There is no end to the machanition of Christian onslught on Hindu society. The pity is the Hindus are happily discussing whether Kanchi mutt is Peetha or Mutt. God forgive!  
  Kmr.Krishnan  
  25 Jun 2009  
   
 
  Now a days you can see many novice nuns move about in sarees resembling saffron cloth. The gullible public will take them to be Hindu sanyasinis.There is no end to the machanition of Christian onslught on Hindu society. The pity is the Hindus are happily discussing whether Kanchi mutt is Peetha or Mutt. God forgive!  
  Kmr.Krishnan  
  25 Jun 2009  
   
 
  After going through different comments and stories in the blog,,i am wondering where we are('Hindus').Nobody,nothing can save us excepting the unity among us(Hindus).Our selfish politicians,corrupt political system,useless Constitution are the main culprits for the present situation of Hindus and Hinduism.As we are not as united as other Religions,we are facing this type of situation in our own country.This country is ours for so many thousands of years.But we never said,this land belongs only to Hindus.This might be our weakness which is contributing to our destruction by other religions.It is very much paining to hear that Our gurus, Peetathipathis are being brutally murdered,tortured in our own country.But the inherent weeknesses and defects in our caste system have paved way to conversion.We have to think in that direction and should eradicate feelings of differentiation in our religion,then only this glorious religion can survive.  
  venkat  
  31 Oct 2009  
   
 
  I have badly effected in this religious conversion, my whole family (Dad, Mum, Sister, and her husband) is being converted now!!! They tried to convert my wife and some of other relations too.... Some severe action should be taken on this CASE, otherwise in another few generations total HINDUISM will goes off.....  
  Saravanan  
  17 Apr 2010  
   
 
  we should follow the policy of jews. for every hindu converted we should reconvert 10 christians .tit for tat .further each hindu family should give one member of his family to the sangh parivaar for service towards our religion and country.the christians should be made to feel helpless.  
  c.s mahadevan  
  04 May 2010  
   
 
  I Am Jain and i Convet to parsi that is right or wrong plz tell me  
  Manish Jain  
  09 May 2010  
   

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