Romila Thapar’s historical dogmas
by Vijaya Rajiva on 07 Feb 2013 38 Comments

Romila Thapar, the favourite historian of Indian Marxists and the feted and decorated icon of certain international scholarly circles, is settling further into her dogmatic worldview, as can be discerned from the talks she has been giving in recent years. The old dogmas are carefully swaddled in more attractive clothes (sometimes not even that) but essentially the old school of historiography persists. Although she declined the Padma Bhushan and expressly wrote her rejection to then President APJ Abdul Kalam, she readily accepted the Kluge Chair at Harvard University in 2005.

 

J.W. Kluge was an entrepreneur who made millions and gave endowments to academic institutions, notably the Library of Congress.  Dr. Thapar’s words to the Indian President in 2005 were: “I only accept awards from academic institutions or those associated with my professional work and not state awards”.


The Kluge Chair was conferred after much controversy, foremost among the criticisms being that Dr. Thapar has poor knowledge (if any) of Sanskrit, Pali, Prakrit, Persian and Arabic and therefore much of her work in ancient and medieval Indian history suffers from that limitation.

 

Apart from her linguistic limitations, Dr. Thapar’s work is handicapped by her intense partisanship, which can possibly be explained by her Marxist beliefs. While a Hindu view of Indian history involves an ongoing interface of Hinduism with social and economic history, Thapar rejects this. Veda Agama does not exist in her world view and facts staring in the face are quietly dismissed. She claims that the importance given to Veda Agama by Hindus is the result of the British study of ancient Hindu texts, and not an ongoing reality. Veda Agama is not a living reality for this JNU historian either. The absurdity of this view, this tunnel vision, eludes her.

 

As a Marxist historian, she accepts Marx’s view of religion in general and Hinduism and his materialist interpretation of history. Yet, Marx was ignorant of much of the history of the East and certainly of India. While he had some familiarity with Russian history and wrote about it and corresponded with Russian revolutionaries, especially on the viability of the Russian obschina (village commune) he was singularly unfitted to pontificate on India, which alas, he did. He was well equipped to analyse and critique capitalism as a product of his own Western European society and his six-volume Das Kapital are a testimony to this, but he was at sea when it came to older existing cultures and civilisations like the Hindu.

 

Marx’s negative view of Hinduism is best seen in his statement that while Britain exploited India it was also a progressive force in India where Man who should be the master of Nature falls on his knees before Hanuman the monkey and Sabala the cow.

 

His materialist interpretation of history, namely that it was the mode of production that dictated the social, religious and political structures of a society, became crytallised into the periodisation of history, namely that history went through successive phases, each successive phase a higher one than the previous. Hence, the primitive communist phase was succeeded by the feudal and then the capitalist phase and thence the proletarian phase and thence to the highest form of communism, where society would be organised according to the principle, from each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

 

This periodisation was a materialist imitation of the Hegelian view of history which outlined a primitive African society followed by the higher Oriental society, then the higher Greek society and finally, the highest of all, the ideal Christian modern state, which in his time was the European state, specifically Germany. Marx did not outline an Asiatic mode of production; that was Stalin’s contribution. Recently, Romila Thapar made a recent mistaken identification of the same with Marx’s name (Hard Talk with Karan Thapar 2012).


Note Marx’s observation on India: “England has to fulfill a double mission in India: one destructive, the other regenerating - the annihilation of the  old Asiatic society, and the laying of the material foundation of Western society in Asia” - Karl Marx, New York Daily Tribune, August 8, 1853

 

Apart from her Marxist dogmas, Thapar like many JNU historians, had a political motive in upgrading (and falsifying) Muslim history in India. An intense dislike of Hinduism drove this view and the amnesia towards Hindu history as predating either Islam or Christianity on the Indian subcontinent. Yet even her conservative estimate showed the Veda and Vedic culture and subsequent Vedic Agama culture preceded Islam in India by nearly two millennia! These facts alone should have told her the major defining role of Veda Agama in Indian history, not to mention its continuation in present day India.

 

Thapar’s her work on ancient India focuses on social and economic factors, ignoring the impact of Hinduism in shaping Hindu society; but her work on the Muslim period mitigates the evils of the barbarian invasions and argues that it resulted in an integrated Indian society. The two enterprises, the downgrading of Hinduism and the upgrading of the Islamic ethos go hand in hand. Her defence of Mahmoud Ghazni for his attack on the Somnath temple (Somnatha, the many voices of history, 2005) is well known. She dismisses the evidence of contemporaneous Persian sources which glorified Ghazni’s destruction of Somnath as the work of a true Muslim who destroyed the infidel’s place of worship.

 

Instead, she argues that this was simply the usual pattern of conquerors and overlords, nothing specific to Ghazni. In recent talks she has emphasised that she is a historian, with a certain scientific methodology:

1. Reliance on facts.

2. Use of concrete evidence.

3. Use of Analysis/ Interpretation.

 

What she means by the above is the use of sources, linguistic, literary, artifacts, inscriptions, anthropological, archaeological etc and their analyses/interpretation. The entire Veda Agama tradition is dismissed as not being significant ‘concrete evidence’. And when asked by the interviewer about the evidence provided by the Archeological Society of India on the Rama Janmabhoomi, she said archeological evidence is not reliable since it is an interpretation (Hard Talk with Karan Thapar 2012). Unbelievable!

 

Thapar revealed her partisanship in the way she upheld the Aryan invasion of India theory long after Indic scholars had disproved it through decades of authentic work. Along with the debunking of the Aryan invasion of India theory, Indic scholars undertook conclusive and definitive work on the Sarasvati Sindhu Civilisation (formerly the Indus Valley Civilisation) by discovering the famed river, mentioned in 78 times in the Rig Veda. The river had disappeared at the end of the Vedic period owing to tectonic shifts, which was established through archaeological finds and satellite photography. The major sites of this civilisation were located on the banks of the Sarasvati. And since Sindhu was the ancient name of the river Indus, also mentioned in the Rig Veda, the name Sarasvati Sindhu Civilisation became popular.


In her interview with Karan Thapar (March 2012), Thapar insisted darkly that the only reason Hindus favoured the indigenous origin of the Aryans was because they wanted to show that the late coming Muslims and Christians were outsiders, a funny claim by a historian who is supposed to be firm about being scientific! And she continues to insist that the Veda Agama is accepted by Hindu historians simply because they were following the British who read only the texts of Hinduism!

 

Quite reluctantly and tardily, Thapar has now abandoned her pet Aryan Invasion Theory and speaks instead of ‘migrations’ of peoples into the subcontinent, which is another variant of the Out of India orthodoxy. Since it is now impossible to maintain the Aryan invasion thesis in respectable academic circles, the old lies are being spun in new designs. Hence, Hindus must remain on guard and watch Marxist manoeuvres carefully so that the history of the civilisation is not compromised by false prophets and their dogmas.

 

The writer is a political philosopher who taught at a Canadian university

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Stance of Romila Thapar is well knowm hence herrefusal to accept Padma award is understood? But distortion of Indian history where values had ruled since time immemorial is deplorable?
Vinod Tuli
February 07, 2013
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The Kluge Chair was not at Harvard, but the Smithsonian Institution in Washington, DC. Not that it matters.
My own view is we need to start building a new foundation and methodology based on science and rigorous analysis. Sanjeev Sanyal's Land of the Seven Rivers is a step in that direction.
Polemics is useful only up to a point. Romila et al are headed into the dustbin of history. They know it but are trying to prolong it by changing their tune from assertion to 'debate'. Their history doesn't need a debate, but a burial.
Rajaram
February 07, 2013
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The fact is that she is more a Marxist than a historian.

Vasant
February 07, 2013
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@Dr. Rajaram

Thanks about the Kluge Chair.

Yes, a new methodolgy has to be built up . True, the Marxist reading of history is destined for burial, but they have not reached their last gasp yet. We have to assist them in that process !
Dr.Vijaya Rajiva
February 07, 2013
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The reason Thapar has changed to Migration (immigration) theory is because her masters whose work she cuts and pastes have changed from AIT to AMT.
Lot of work in recent years by Indians and non-Indians have shown (Shrikant Talagiri, Dr Nicholas KAzanas, Subhash KAk, Genetic studies and archeological studies by Mark Kenoyer etc..) have shown that Vedic and post Vedic civilization is indigenous. Thapar and her ilk of Marxist historians are destined for the dustbins of history. Inn India it is going to be a very slow process because of their death choke on Indian Academia, thanks to the wily Indira Gandhi.
Akaula
February 07, 2013
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@Akaula

Yes, the authors you have listed have done the pioneering work from a variety of veiwpoints. The most recent work is also that of Dr. Kalyanraman (Director of the Sarasvati Research Center) who had organised a couple of years ago a Conference at New Delhi, which included such luminaries as B. Lal. The Conference was focussed on the discovery of the ancient river Sarasvati (now the dried up river bed) through satellite photography etc. Dr. K. has also written an extraordinary compendium Indus Script Cipher (2010)which uses the rebus method to show the continuity of the Sarasvati Sindhu civilisation in present day Hindu culture.

Dr. Rajaram himself is working, I believe, on a book which will shed light on the origins of the Indo Europeans. He has given a preview of all this in Folks Magazine, in a three part serial on the Indo Europeans. One of the remarkable contributions of this work is that it explains why so perfect a language such as Sanskrit existed at such an early period.

His thesis : Sanskrit did not occur by happenstance, did not evolve out of existing dialects (such as they were) but was deliberately crafted and put together by the Rishis.
Yes, the JNU historians had a stranglehold on education. Their patriarch was D.D. Kosambi. More anon . . . .
Dr.Vijaya Rajiva
February 07, 2013
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Excellent piece; Nailed the lies of Romila
Narada
February 08, 2013
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@Narada

Thanks ! Although I am fully trained in the areas of political philosophy and political thought, I am trying to write semi popular articles that will reach a general audience, not articles that will gather dust in a library !

In that context Vijayvaani is doing yeoman service to writers such as myself who are basically academics but have found a platform to express our views.

It is critically important at this hour that there is a two pronged process, the specialists such as Dr. Rajaram et al and others who write semi popular articles.

I have not yet come across a Hindu critique of Marxist historiography which does not simply dismiss it or engage in name calling or invoke in a mechanical way our tradition. For example, the patriarch of Marxist historiography, D.D.Kosambi was a genius and polymath (unlike Thapar who is at a much lower level) and yet his methodology was flawed. Why ? How ? Those are some of the challenging questions.

At the other site where my article was also published (Haindava Keralam.com) someone suggested that I write a popular book on the topic.

Not a bad idea.
Dr.Vijaya Rajiva
February 08, 2013
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The historians need objective with scientific evidences which I finad is rare in Indian historianas and Thapar is not an exception to them.
A porejudiced and biased view would be not accepted for long.
Division of Indian History in Ancient, Medieval and Modern is subject to scritiny when Medeval and Modern is equated with Muslim and British period why not with Hindus the Ancient.
Thapar's conjecture that British has given some progressive thoughts may be accepted but what about pre-Muslim Indian height in medicine, mathematics and metaalugy and all other branches?
Long back than modern researches, RC Majumdar in his voluminous work has added an opposite view to Arya invasion (by MMGanganath Jha, RS Bhandarkar etc).
Sanskrit is unique and has all over one form in India and has not been from Baltik nations. Sanskrit has evolved from all Indian dialects of that time and has gradually influenced other dilects/lamguages.
Thaper is biased, prejudced and whether she accepted anything or rejected is her choice and I have nothing to add except that probably she was not desrving and would have have been a wrong recipient. Any anti-Hindu is almost equated to anti-Hindustani!
Dr. Dhanakar Thakur
February 08, 2013
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Romila Thapar and the so called historians of her ilk are championing the cause of the proselytising forces with an aim to de-sanskritise India and pave the way for the balkanisation of Indian nation.They are not holding any foreign chiars of scholarship but they are on the pay roll of the evangelical capitalists.The best thing is that the scholars like Dr.Vijaya Rajiva have decoded their nefarious designs and it is good for upholding the civilisational moorings of the Indian nation,which has its roots in Sanskrit Indian nationhood.
MAHESH KAUL
February 09, 2013
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@Dr.Vijaya Rajiva, my understanding of the so called left liberal historians is that they represent the forces that are hell bent to balkanise Indian nation under the garb of 'secular"(sickular) mask.If you analyse their work stryle then you will find that they are creating the critical mass for the two forces -1) Islamic jihad,2) Christian proselytisation. because the aim of the two coincides with that of the Left liberal perverts that is the disintegration of the Indian nation.an interesting feature is that the left and the church may not be in good terms with each other but in India they work in tandem as the goal is the same. As regards the Hindus who by proclaiming themselves as marxists and secular,they are denigrating the Vedic culture due to one factor that has engulfed the Hindu society due to the slavery of Muslim invaders and the Christian Church during the British rule and after the advent of the evangelicals.I call this "sickness of slavery' and defeatist mentality.Whenever one sees good qualities in an adversary and praises him/her inspite of knowing well that the adversary is wrong -it is called the sickness of slavery.It is the same state which engulfed Arjuna in the battle of Mahabharata when he refused to fight against the kaurvas and praised his adversary. And it was none other than the Lord Krishna who opened his eyes by giving the divine discourse in the form of the celestial song-The Bhagvad Gita and motivated him to call a spade a spade.That spirit needs to be invoked in the field of the research,whether it is political science,history or philosophy to present the facts as facts with the historical evidence.To nail the lie of these pseudos the need is to inculcate the sense of research among the young scholars and institutionalize the Vedic/Agamic research.
MAHESH KAUL
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@Dr.Vijaya Rajiva, my understanding of the so called left liberal historians is that they represent the forces that are hell bent to balkanise Indian nation under the garb of 'secular"(sickular) mask.If you analyse their work stryle then you will find that they are creating the critical mass for the two forces -1) Islamic jihad,2) Christian proselytisation. because the aim of the two coincides with that of the Left liberal perverts that is the disintegration of the Indian nation.an interesting feature is that the left and the church may not be in good terms with each other but in India they work in tandem as the goal is the same. As regards the Hindus who by proclaiming themselves as marxists and secular,they are denigrating the Vedic culture due to one factor that has engulfed the Hindu society due to the slavery of Muslim invaders and the Christian Church during the British rule and after the advent of the evangelicals.I call this "sickness of slavery' and defeatist mentality.Whenever one sees good qualities in an adversary and praises him/her inspite of knowing well that the adversary is wrong -it is called the sickness of slavery.It is the same state which engulfed Arjuna in the battle of Mahabharata when he refused to fight against the kaurvas and praised his adversary. And it was none other than the Lord Krishna who opened his eyes by giving the divine discourse in the form of the celestial song-The Bhagvad Gita and motivated him to call a spade a spade.That spirit needs to be invoked in the field of the research,whether it is political science,history or philosophy to present the facts as facts with the historical evidence.To nail the lie of these pseudos the need is to inculcate the sense of research among the young scholars and institutionalize the Vedic/Agamic research.
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@Dr.Vijaya Rajiva, my understanding of the so called left liberal historians is that they represent the forces that are hell bent to balkanise Indian nation under the garb of 'secular"(sickular) mask.If you analyse their work stryle then you will find that they are creating the critical mass for the two forces -1) Islamic jihad,2) Christian proselytisation. because the aim of the two coincides with that of the Left liberal perverts that is the disintegration of the Indian nation.an interesting feature is that the left and the church may not be in good terms with each other but in India they work in tandem as the goal is the same. As regards the Hindus who by proclaiming themselves as marxists and secular,they are denigrating the Vedic culture due to one factor that has engulfed the Hindu society due to the slavery of Muslim invaders and the Christian Church during the British rule and after the advent of the evangelicals.I call this "sickness of slavery' and defeatist mentality.Whenever one sees good qualities in an adversary and praises him/her inspite of knowing well that the adversary is wrong -it is called the sickness of slavery.It is the same state which engulfed Arjuna in the battle of Mahabharata when he refused to fight against the kaurvas and praised his adversary. And it was none other than the Lord Krishna who opened his eyes by giving the divine discourse in the form of the celestial song-The Bhagvad Gita and motivated him to call a spade a spade.That spirit needs to be invoked in the field of the research,whether it is political science,history or philosophy to present the facts as facts with the historical evidence.To nail the lie of these pseudos the need is to inculcate the sense of research among the young scholars and institutionalize the Vedic/Agamic research.
MAHESH KAUL
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@Dr.Vijaya Rajiva, my understanding of the so called left liberal historians is that they represent the forces that are hell bent to balkanise Indian nation under the garb of 'secular"(sickular) mask.If you analyse their work stryle then you will find that they are creating the critical mass for the two forces -1) Islamic jihad,2) Christian proselytisation. because the aim of the two coincides with that of the Left liberal perverts that is the disintegration of the Indian nation.an interesting feature is that the left and the church may not be in good terms with each other but in India they work in tandem as the goal is the same. As regards the Hindus who by proclaiming themselves as marxists and secular,they are denigrating the Vedic culture due to one factor that has engulfed the Hindu society due to the slavery of Muslim invaders and the Christian Church during the British rule and after the advent of the evangelicals.I call this "sickness of slavery' and defeatist mentality.Whenever one sees good qualities in an adversary and praises him/her inspite of knowing well that the adversary is wrong -it is called the sickness of slavery.It is the same state which engulfed Arjuna in the battle of Mahabharata when he refused to fight against the kaurvas and praised his adversary. And it was none other than the Lord Krishna who opened his eyes by giving the divine discourse in the form of the celestial song-The Bhagvad Gita and motivated him to call a spade a spade.That spirit needs to be invoked in the field of the research,whether it is political science,history or philosophy to present the facts as facts with the historical evidence.To nail the lie of these pseudos the need is to inculcate the sense of research among the young scholars and institutionalize the Vedic/Agamic research.
MAHESH KAUL
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@Dr.Vijaya Rajiva, my understanding of the so called left liberal historians is that they represent the forces that are hell bent to balkanise Indian nation under the garb of 'secular"(sickular) mask.If you analyse their work stryle then you will find that they are creating the critical mass for the two forces -1) Islamic jihad,2) Christian proselytisation. because the aim of the two coincides with that of the Left liberal perverts that is the disintegration of the Indian nation.an interesting feature is that the left and the church may not be in good terms with each other but in India they work in tandem as the goal is the same. As regards the Hindus who by proclaiming themselves as marxists and secular,they are denigrating the Vedic culture due to one factor that has engulfed the Hindu society due to the slavery of Muslim invaders and the Christian Church during the British rule and after the advent of the evangelicals.I call this "sickness of slavery' and defeatist mentality.Whenever one sees good qualities in an adversary and praises him/her inspite of knowing well that the adversary is wrong -it is called the sickness of slavery.It is the same state which engulfed Arjuna in the battle of Mahabharata when he refused to fight against the kaurvas and praised his adversary. And it was none other than the Lord Krishna who opened his eyes by giving the divine discourse in the form of the celestial song-The Bhagvad Gita and motivated him to call a spade a spade.That spirit needs to be invoked in the field of the research,whether it is political science,history or philosophy to present the facts as facts with the historical evidence.To nail the lie of these pseudos the need is to inculcate the sense of research among the young scholars and institutionalize the Vedic/Agamic research.
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@Dr.Vijaya Rajiva, my understanding of the so called left liberal historians is that they represent the forces that are hell bent to balkanise Indian nation under the garb of 'secular"(sickular) mask.If you analyse their work stryle then you will find that they are creating the critical mass for the two forces -1) Islamic jihad,2) Christian proselytisation. because the aim of the two coincides with that of the Left liberal perverts that is the disintegration of the Indian nation.an interesting feature is that the left and the church may not be in good terms with each other but in India they work in tandem as the goal is the same. As regards the Hindus who by proclaiming themselves as marxists and secular,they are denigrating the Vedic culture due to one factor that has engulfed the Hindu society due to the slavery of Muslim invaders and the Christian Church during the British rule and after the advent of the evangelicals.I call this "sickness of slavery' and defeatist mentality.Whenever one sees good qualities in an adversary and praises him/her inspite of knowing well that the adversary is wrong -it is called the sickness of slavery.It is the same state which engulfed Arjuna in the battle of Mahabharata when he refused to fight against the kaurvas and praised his adversary. And it was none other than the Lord Krishna who opened his eyes by giving the divine discourse in the form of the celestial song-The Bhagvad Gita and motivated him to call a spade a spade.That spirit needs to be invoked in the field of the research,whether it is political science,history or philosophy to present the facts as facts with the historical evidence.To nail the lie of these pseudos the need is to inculcate the sense of research among the young scholars and institutionalize the Vedic/Agamic research.
MAHESH KAUL
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MYTH OF ARYAN INVASTION THEORY :CONSPIRACY OF BRITISHERS
First, it served to divide India into a northern Aryan and southern Dravidian culture which were made hostile to each other. This kept the Hindus divided and is still a source of social tension.

Second, it gave the British an excuse in their conquest of India. They could claim to be doing only what the Aryan ancestors of the Hindus had previously done millennia ago.

Third, it served to make Vedic culture later than and possibly derived from Middle Eastern cultures. With the proximity and relationship of the latter with the Bible and Christianity, this kept the Hindu religion as a sidelight to the development of religion and civilization to the West.

Fourth, it allowed the sciences of India to be given a Greek basis, as any Vedic basis was largely disqualified by the primitive nature of the Vedic culture.
som
February 10, 2013
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Barely seven years after Prof. B B Lal penned “The Sarasvati Flows On: The Continuity of Indian Culture” (2002)[ also at Nausharo in pre-partition India (now Pakistan), French excavator Jean-Francois Jarrige], the defiantly-in-denial UPA has been forced to admit the existence of the Pre Harappan civilization- the Vaidic Saraswati Civilisation-the oldest civilisation of India, supporting this bold hypothesis is powerful evidence from hydrology, geology, literature, archaeology and radiocarbon dating, in response to a parliamentary question, the government revealed that a study by scientists of ISRO, Jodhpur, and the Rajasthan Government’s Ground Water Department has found irrefutable evidence of palaeo-channels and archaeological sites of pre-Harappan, Harappan and post-Harappan ages, indicating the existence of a mighty river matching descriptions of the Saraswati in Vedic literature.
But who were these Vedic people ?
Were they Aryan invaders as we were taught in school, or indigenous ancestors whose achievements were ‘stolen’ by ascribing them to so-called Aryans, a people who have left no traces of like achievements in any of the lands from where they supposedly descended upon the Indian plains?
This era also created the ploughshare and spoked wheel, the tandoor and roti, chulha and chapatti, and pots and pans and other vessels of daily use.
But, who were these Vedic people ?
There was a rich industry in bead-making, shell, ivory-working, mainly copper and bronze, though gold and silver ornaments had also arrived.
Truly a Golden Age. The only thing missing is the inscrutable script, surely a precursor to Brahmi, the language that developed later!
This is augmented by the famous limestone statuette of the Mohenjo-daro priest-king, with his eyes introvert and eyelids half-closed, a meditative form later associated with Buddhist tradition, especially in Tibet and China.
Yet this form of dhyana is mentioned in the Bhagvadgita (ch. 6, verse 13) which states that the gaze should be fixed on the tip of the nose!
Town planning, especially given the chaos in our cities today, will remain ancient India’s greatest contribution to civilisation. Be it Kalibangan, or Sisupalgarh near Bhubaneshwar, Orissa, the grid pattern with streets running north-south and east-west was the rage. This, it is pertinent, was an era in which Egypt or Mesopotamia (the West’s favourite ‘cradle’ of civilisation) had no notion of such town planning – which must be conceded was original to India. To cap it all, there were covered drains and manholes for discharge of sullage.
Bricks were kiln-fired, and there was bonding, with bricks laid out in alternate courses – length-wise and breadth-wise – for strong walls, way back in the third millennium BCE. And clay floors were soled with fragments of terracotta nodules and large pieces of charcoal – to absorb moisture, prevent dampness travelling up the walls, and inhibiting termites!
But, who were these Vedic people ?
It is now conclusively established that there was no Aryan Invasion, or even Migration (the current theory). What does remain, however, is a West-led mental resistance to accepting the indigenous origins of the Vedic (Hindu) religion, culture, and civilisation.
narendra
February 10, 2013
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Saraswati civilisation at the banks of river Saraswati from 9000 BC to 4000 BC is the cradle of world civilisation . Saraswati river dried up in 4000 BC due to tectonic shift blocking the Himalayan glacier source, causing an exodus of elite to Mesopotamia, Europe, Russia and all over India. Indus valley civilisation started after the Saraswati river dried up, and Yamuna started pouring into Ganges
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February 10, 2013
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• An Indian tragedy: Aryan invasion theory:
Scientists had long ago dismissed the idea of the Aryan race .
All this makes abundantly clear that theories based on the Aryan myth are modern European creations that have little to do with ancient India. The word Arya appears for the first time in the Rig Veda, India’s oldest text. Hitler did not invent it. The idea of Aryans as a superior race was already in the air— in Europe, not India.
• An African tragedy: Tutsi invasion theory:
When we look at the map of middle Africa, we see two little countries named Rwanda and Burundi, bordering on Zaire (or the Democratic Republic of Congo). As reported in the Western media, these countries are inhabited by two supposedly different ethnic groups, the so-called Hutus and Tutsis. The ethnic composition of these two countries is as follows.
Rwanda: Hutu 84%, Tutsi 15%, Twa (Pygmies) 1%
Burundi: Hutu 85%, Tutsi 14%, Twa 1%
In other words, their compositions hardly differ at all. But according to Western anthropologists, mainly colonial bureaucrats and missionaries, the Tutsi are supposed to be a Hamitic people, a race that was often intermixed with the whiter races of the North, notably from Ethiopia and Egypt, which in their turn were intermixed with some West Asiatic people, mainly the Hittites, by repeated invasions from the North. These people, the Tutsis, are supposed to have arrived from the North and not native to Rwanda.
This in essence is the Tutsi invasion theory, the African version of the Aryan invasion theory. The similarities are startling, even to the extent of the Dravidians in India being preceded by earlier inhabitants, the aborigines (the so-called adi-vasis), who have their African counterpart in the Pygmies. So we have the African Pygmy-Hutu-Tutsi sequence corresponding to the Indian aborigines-Dravidian-Aryan scheme.
As with the Aryan theories and their various offshoots, this Tutsi-Hutu division has no factual basis. They speak the same language, have a long history of intermarriage and have many cultural characteristics in common. Differences are regional rather than racial, which they were not aware of until the Europeans made it part of their politics and propaganda.
The explosion came following independence form colonial rule. Repeated violence after independence fueled this hatred driven by this supposed ethnic difference and the concocted history of the Tutsi invasion and oppression. Some 2.5 million people were massacred in this fratricidal horror of wars and genocides.
Why did India not go the way of Rwanda-Burundi? Not for lack of trying but because the cultural foundation of Hinduism proved too strong. It defeated the designs of politicians and propagandists masquerading as scholars. It is no coincidence that Rwanda and Burundi had been converted to Christianity, preparing the ground for sectarian conflict. Several church figures, including priests and nuns have been found guilty of complicity in the Tutsi massacres. As in India, Christianity was a colonial tool and missionaries little more than imperial agents.
nitha
February 10, 2013
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The English word “Aryan” is borrowed from the Sanskrit* word ?rya meaning ‘Noble**’ it was used initially as a national name to designate the worshippers of the Hindu deities*** and especially Indra**** according to Brahmanical principles (performance of sacrifice, Yajna).
According to Swami Vivekananda:
The Aryans were kind and generous, and in their hearts which were large and unbounded as the ocean and in their brains gifted with superhuman genius

Swami Dayananda’s creation, the Arya Samaj, is a unique component in Hinduism. The Arya Samaj unequivocally condemns idol-worship, animal sacrifices, ancestor worship, pilgrimages, priestcraft, offerings made in temples, the caste system, untouchability, child marriages and discrimination against women on the grounds that all these lacked Vedic sanction. The Arya Samaj discourages dogma and symbolism and encourages skepticism in beliefs that run contrary to common sense and logic. To many people, the Arya Samaj aims to be a “universal church” based on the authority of the Vedas.

Among Swami Dayananda’s immense contributions is his championing of the equal rights of women – such as their right to education and reading of Indian scriptures – and his translation of the Vedas from Sanskrit to Hindi so that the common man may be able to read the Vedas. The Arya Samaj is rare in Hinduism in its acceptance of women as leaders in prayer meetings and preaching.

Hitler wanted a pure Aryan race, people with blue eyes, blonde hair, muscular (in the case of men) and beautiful (the case of women). He wanted all Germans to be racially pure because he wanted to start his own “super” perfect race, even though he did not have blonde hair or blue eyes! Also there was a lot of speculation about him being homosexual, even though he sent homosexuals to concentration camps etc.For men it was essential to be fit for military service, while women of child-bearing age were expected to be very fertile..

So ,there are so many definition are available,all contradict each other.But it is clear that eastern concept
of aryan is related to virtue(not race like western concept according to Hitler).
In the light of western concept( according to Hitler)Aryan invasion theory was created.
In the light of eastern concept{according to Swami Vivekananda beliver of monism (vedanta)who is not very much fond of idle worship ,Swami Dayananda,against idle worship }Aryan invasion theory could not be created.
And one thing is clear ,it is sanskrit word .Sanskrit(see the footnote * )is also not related to
any locality(as all other language deserve),but related to virtue called dev-bhasha- language of hindu -deity (see footnate ***)
So,aryan invasion theory is a conspiracy against Dravidian( people or peoples or is a term used to refer to the diverse groups of people who natively speak languages belonging to the Dravidian language family. Populations of speakers of around 220 million are found mostly in Southern India. Other Dravidian people are found in parts of central India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Nepal and Pakistan. The most populous Dravidian people are the Telugus, Tamils, Kannadigas and the Malayalis. Smaller Dravidian communities with 1–5 million speakers are the Tuluvas, Gonds and Brahui.)

*The Sanskrit verbal adjective sá?sk?ta- may be translated as “put together, constructed, well or completely formed; refined, adorned, highly elaborated”. It is derived from the root sa?-skar- “to put together, compose, arrange, prepare”, where sa?- “together” (as English same) and (s)kar- “do, make”.

The term in the generic meaning of “made ready, prepared, completed, finished” is found in the Rigveda. Also in Vedic Sanskrit, as nominalized neuter sa?sk?tám, it means “preparation, prepared place” and thus “ritual enclosure, place for a sacrifice”.

As a term for “refined or elaborated speech” the adjective appears only in Epic and Classical Sanskrit, in the Manusmriti and in the Mahabharata. The language referred to as sa?sk?ta “the cultured language” has by definition always been a “sacred” and “sophisticated” language, used for religious and learned discourse in ancient India, and contrasted with the languages spoken by the people, pr?k?ta- “natural, artless, normal, ordinary”.

**Noble means person who posses Integrity(in thought and action with rationality),Chivalry,Courage &Self-sacrifice(for any good cause).

***Hindu deities:Within Hinduism a large number of personal gods (Ishvaras) are worshipped as murtis. These beings are significantly powerful entities known as devas. The exact nature of belief in regards to each deity varies between differing Hindu denominations and philosophies. Often these beings are depicted in humanoid or partially humanoid forms, complete with a set of unique and complex iconography in each case. The devas are expansions of Brahman into various forms, each with a certain quality.
In the Rig Veda 33 devas are described, which are personifications of phenomena in nature.

****Indra : the King of the gods or Devas and Lord of Heaven or Svargaloka in Hindu mythology. He is also the God of War, Storms, and Rainfall and is associated with Vajrapani.
Hariharan
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The English word “Aryan” is borrowed from the Sanskrit* word ?rya meaning ‘Noble**’ it was used initially as a national name to designate the worshippers of the Hindu deities*** and especially Indra**** according to Brahmanical principles (performance of sacrifice, Yajna).
According to Swami Vivekananda:
The Aryans were kind and generous, and in their hearts which were large and unbounded as the ocean and in their brains gifted with superhuman genius

Swami Dayananda’s creation, the Arya Samaj, is a unique component in Hinduism. The Arya Samaj unequivocally condemns idol-worship, animal sacrifices, ancestor worship, pilgrimages, priestcraft, offerings made in temples, the caste system, untouchability, child marriages and discrimination against women on the grounds that all these lacked Vedic sanction. The Arya Samaj discourages dogma and symbolism and encourages skepticism in beliefs that run contrary to common sense and logic. To many people, the Arya Samaj aims to be a “universal church” based on the authority of the Vedas.

Among Swami Dayananda’s immense contributions is his championing of the equal rights of women – such as their right to education and reading of Indian scriptures – and his translation of the Vedas from Sanskrit to Hindi so that the common man may be able to read the Vedas. The Arya Samaj is rare in Hinduism in its acceptance of women as leaders in prayer meetings and preaching.

Hitler wanted a pure Aryan race, people with blue eyes, blonde hair, muscular (in the case of men) and beautiful (the case of women). He wanted all Germans to be racially pure because he wanted to start his own “super” perfect race, even though he did not have blonde hair or blue eyes! Also there was a lot of speculation about him being homosexual, even though he sent homosexuals to concentration camps etc.For men it was essential to be fit for military service, while women of child-bearing age were expected to be very fertile..

So ,there are so many definition are available,all contradict each other.But it is clear that eastern concept
of aryan is related to virtue(not race like western concept according to Hitler).
In the light of western concept( according to Hitler)Aryan invasion theory was created.
In the light of eastern concept{according to Swami Vivekananda beliver of monism (vedanta)who is not very much fond of idle worship ,Swami Dayananda,against idle worship }Aryan invasion theory could not be created.
And one thing is clear ,it is sanskrit word .Sanskrit(see the footnote * )is also not related to
any locality(as all other language deserve),but related to virtue called dev-bhasha- language of hindu -deity (see footnate ***)
So,aryan invasion theory is a conspiracy against Dravidian( people or peoples or is a term used to refer to the diverse groups of people who natively speak languages belonging to the Dravidian language family. Populations of speakers of around 220 million are found mostly in Southern India. Other Dravidian people are found in parts of central India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Nepal and Pakistan. The most populous Dravidian people are the Telugus, Tamils, Kannadigas and the Malayalis. Smaller Dravidian communities with 1–5 million speakers are the Tuluvas, Gonds and Brahui.)

*The Sanskrit verbal adjective sá?sk?ta- may be translated as “put together, constructed, well or completely formed; refined, adorned, highly elaborated”. It is derived from the root sa?-skar- “to put together, compose, arrange, prepare”, where sa?- “together” (as English same) and (s)kar- “do, make”.

The term in the generic meaning of “made ready, prepared, completed, finished” is found in the Rigveda. Also in Vedic Sanskrit, as nominalized neuter sa?sk?tám, it means “preparation, prepared place” and thus “ritual enclosure, place for a sacrifice”.

As a term for “refined or elaborated speech” the adjective appears only in Epic and Classical Sanskrit, in the Manusmriti and in the Mahabharata. The language referred to as sa?sk?ta “the cultured language” has by definition always been a “sacred” and “sophisticated” language, used for religious and learned discourse in ancient India, and contrasted with the languages spoken by the people, pr?k?ta- “natural, artless, normal, ordinary”.

**Noble means person who posses Integrity(in thought and action with rationality),Chivalry,Courage &Self-sacrifice(for any good cause).

***Hindu deities:Within Hinduism a large number of personal gods (Ishvaras) are worshipped as murtis. These beings are significantly powerful entities known as devas. The exact nature of belief in regards to each deity varies between differing Hindu denominations and philosophies. Often these beings are depicted in humanoid or partially humanoid forms, complete with a set of unique and complex iconography in each case. The devas are expansions of Brahman into various forms, each with a certain quality.
In the Rig Veda 33 devas are described, which are personifications of phenomena in nature.

****Indra : the King of the gods or Devas and Lord of Heaven or Svargaloka in Hindu mythology. He is also the God of War, Storms, and Rainfall and is associated with Vajrapani.
Hariharan
February 10, 2013
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So, Aryan -Dravidian myth is a Nazi propaganda of white European Christians !!!
karan
February 10, 2013
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Some groups based in America and Europe are actively engaged in weakening Indian society by dividing its people into mutually hostile camps on the basis of tribe, cast and religion. It is part of an ideology and academic exercise promoted by evangelical Christian and so-called ‘human rights’ organizations in an effort to spread their influence and gain converts. Many human rights organizations are little more than secular fronts of various churches that have made inroads into the media and are now trying to gain control of sections of the government
singh
February 10, 2013
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The Bush Doctrine of spreading freedom and human rights has been called today’s version of Manifest Destiny. It presupposes that America must impose its own social and political principles on others, in the others’ best interests.

Any perceived threat to the status quo of privileges and entitlements that Westerners take for granted is sufficient provocation to trigger the revival of Christian fundamentalism. Post-9/11 is seeing the rise of this fundamentalism from its latent state.
Hariharan
February 10, 2013
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According to Gospel For Asia-a recent issue of the Texas-based magazine:
“The Indian sub-continent with one billion people, is a living example of what happens when Satan rules the entire culture… India is one vast purgatory in which millions of people …. are literally living a cosmic lie! Could Satan have devised a more perfect system for causing misery?”

But such attitudes are nothing new, of course. Christians have waged such ‘spiritual warfare’ against their enemies for centuries, and with the same kind of language.
There are two important points here. First, we must not assume that the ‘developed’ West is free from wilful ignorance. Indeed, wilful ignorance is often a very useful weapon. We need enemies, and, as religious people, we need demons. The utility of Islamophobia is a case in point.Besides, there’s a useful role for such bigotry within the system: as a foil for the liberal powerful to prove their liberal credentials.
And ‘spiritual warfare’, for the evangelical Christian movement, is not just a matter of prayers and metaphor: it is also, very decisively, a matter of ‘virtuous’ troops, tanks, and drones.
som
February 10, 2013
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Evangelicalism- it is European elite who bank rolled South Asia’s enslavement. They have decided to destroy every nation, every country including the United States of America, every livelihood, and reduce the dignity and self respect of peoples everywhere to ‘comfortable level of poverty.’ The sheer depth and breadth of this imperialist assault on the planet’s people is staggering.
The European royalty and the banksters became ‘the elite’ because they controlled the opium trade into China and later drug control worldwide. With profits from world drug trade worth $500 -700 billion annually, the clandestine operations do not need budgetary support of any European nation, just as British colonial expansion did not need tax-payers’ support because every penny needed was extorted from India.
nitha
February 10, 2013
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Mahishasura is usually seen as a cruel demon killed by Goddess Durga, but Dalit research scholars of Osmania University have strongly opposed this saying that he was actually a Dalit king killed by Aryans.

The scholars have urged the Dalit community not to celebrate Dasara since it lauds the killing of Mahishasura and portrays him as a demon.

In fact, activists of Dalit Shakti have decided to make Mahishasura their icon.

They put up a larger-than-life cutout of Mahishasura in the OU campus, garlanded him and also offered prayers.

Dalit Shakti has also decided to oppose Diwali celebrations in the present form and is getting ready to explain the “real” story behind it to the masses.
Lalit
February 10, 2013
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“The USA contributes USD 145 Billion every year to fund Christian Missionaries across the world. Churches across the world spend USD 1.1 Billion towards research aimed at achieving religious conversions. This is for propaganda material in 300 languages about 180 topics. Books and articles are printed in 500 languages. They total 175000. Every conversion costs USD 3300. It does not mean that this amount reaches the Convert. It is the expense incurred in activities related to administration, planning and implementation of the conversion programme. In 1500 A.D, there were 30 Lac active Christian Missionaries. Their number stands at 64.8 Crore today. 54% of these people are non-Whites. The strategy is to train non-Whites, provide them with funds and involve them in religious conversions. This is similar to the time when the British employed Indians as Soldiers to rule India!”
ravi
February 10, 2013
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I have nothing personally against Sonia Gandhi, in fact she probably is a good person to win the allegiance of so many and certainly a loving mother. I share with her a love for India, like her I have lived in this country for over 30 years and like her I have married an Indian. But nevertheless, since she is at the top, Christian conversions in India seem to have gone in overdrive. More than 4,000 foreign Christian missionaries are involved in conversion activities across different states. In Tripura, there were no Christians at independence; there are 120.000 today, a 90% increase since 1991. The figures are even more striking in Arunachal Pradesh, where there were only 1710 Christians in 1961, but 1,2 million today, as well as 780 churches! In Andhra Pradesh, churches are coming-up every day in far flung villages and there was even an attempt to set-up one near Tirupati. Many of the North-East separatist movements, such as the Mizo or the Bodos, are not only Christian dominated, but also sometimes function with the covert backing of the missionaries. In Kerala, particularly in the poor coastal districts, you find “miracle boxes” put in local churches: the gullible villager writes out a paper mentioning his wish: a fishing boat, a loan for a pukka house, fees for the son’s schooling… And lo, a few weeks later, the miracle happens! And of course the whole family converts, making others in the village follow suit. During the Tsunami, entire dalit villages in Tamil Nadu were converted to Christianity with the lure of money.

It is true that there have been a few backlashes against missionaries and nuns, particularly the gruesome murder of Graham Steins and his two sons. But Belgium historian Koenraad Elst laments that « When over a thousand Hindus are killed and a quarter million Hindus ethnically cleansed in Kashmir, the world media doesn’t even notice, but watch the worldwide hue and cry when a few local riots take place and a few missionaries are killed by unidentified tribal miscreants. Christian Naga terrorists have been killing non-Christians for decades on end, and this has never been an issue with the world media, except to bewail the “oppression” of the Nagas by “Hindu India” ». More than 20,000 people have lost their lives to insurgency in Assam and Manipur in the past two decades. As recently as last week, four paramilitary Assam Rifles soldiers were killed in an ambush yesterday by the outlawed United National Liberation Front (UNLF).By Francois Gautier (written on Monday, September 22, 2008)
som
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Many Christian action group cadres have also been inducted into prominent naxalite groups under the garb of liberation theology activists. For instance Vernon Gonsalves @ Vikram, a state committee member of Maharashtra unit of CPI (Maoist) who was arrested by the ATS, Maharashtra, in August,2007 and another top Maoist leader Arun Ferreira, r/o Bandra, who was arrested by Nagpur police have both confessed to the police that they are activists of liberation theology movement. A number of human rights activists including Dr.Binayak Sen,Vice President of PUCL, have also been arrested in the recent past for their close links with the Maoist movement in the country confirming the close links between the Maoist movement and NGO and human rights net-work. Since the Christian action groups in the country are all controlled by various church agencies, many church leaders in India are also now directly linked with the naxalite movement.

So, when Sabyasachi Panda, a top Maoist leader of Orissa claims responsibility for the killing of VHP leader Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati and four others at his ashram in Kandhamal district on August 23,2008, it does not help to absolve the church activists from the charge of involvement in the crime. The naxalite movement in the country had enjoyed maximum mass support during the period from 1969 to 1974. However despite the dynamic leadership provided by leaders like Charu Majumdar and Sitaramaiyyah the support base of the naxalite movement was mostly confined to the three states of West Bengal, Andhra Pradesh and Kerala.

By 1975, the naxal movement had started disintegrating and it is only because of its association with the action group movement since mid seventies that it was able to sustain itself.

Today, with the full support and all possible assistance from the networking NGOs and also with the systematic induction of a large number of NGO activists into major naxalite groups, the naxal movement in the country has now become very powerful and it continues to make inroads into more and more new areas, especially in the remote and tribal regions.

About 170 districts in 15 states in the country are now reportedly considered as naxal-infested. This unprecedented growth of naxalite movement in the country can be attributed to the support and encouragement it receives from the action group movement of networking NGOs which has got a strong and wide network all over the country. The irony of the situation is that the naxalite movement which proclaims to be the greatest crusader against the imperialist lobby is presently controlled by the action group movement which in turn is promoted, financed and controlled by the same imperialist lobby.
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@ravi
The Crusades were in part a reaction to these events, as well as serving the ambitions of 11th-, 12th-, and 13th-century popes who sought to extend their political and religious power. Crusading armies were, in a sense, the military arm of papal policy.

Beyond all this, the Crusades coincided with a time of dramatic growth of European population and commercial activity. The Crusades provided an area of expansion to accommodate part of this growing population. They also offered an outlet for the ambitions of land-hungry knights and noblemen. At the same time, the expeditions offered rich commercial opportunities to the merchants of the growing cities of the West, particularly Genoa, Pisa, and Venice.

@ravi
Crusading thus had a broad appeal to numerous Europeans. Some went on Crusades out of greed, some out of religious fervor; almost all Crusaders sought adventure, and many of them believed that their participation would virtually guarantee personal salvation. Every Crusader probably had different reasons for participation.The experiments of the papacy and European monarchs in raising money to finance the Crusades led to the development of systems of direct general taxation that had long-term consequences for the fiscal structure of European governments.
nitha
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Swami Vivekananda (1863-1902), Indian spiritualist

On 9/11/1893 at World Parliament of Religions, Chicago he said to the gathering

“We who had come from the east have sat here day after day and have been told in a patronizing way that we ought to accept Christianity because Christian nations are the most prosperous. We look about us and we see England the most prosperous Christian nation in the world, with her foot upon the neck of 250,000,000 Asiatics. We look back into history and see that the prosperity of Christian Europe begin with Spain. Spain’s prosperity began with the invasion of Mexico. Christianity wins its prosperity by cutting the throats of its fellow men. At such a price the Hindoo will not have prosperity.

They come to my country and abuse my forefathers, my religion, and everything; they walk near a temple and say ‘you idolators, you will go to hell’, but they dare not do this to the Mohammedans of India, for the sword will be out, but the Hindu is too mild.

And may I ask you, Europeans, what country you have ever raised to better conditions? Wherever you have found weaker races, you have exterminated them by the roots, as it were. You have settled on their lands, and they are gone for ever. What is the history of your America, your Australia, and New Zealand, your Pacific Islands and South Africa? Where are the aboriginal races there today? They have all been exterminated, you have killed them outright, as if they were wild beasts. It is only where you have not the power to do so, and there only, that other nations are still alive.

If Christianity is a saving power in itself, why has it not saved the Ethiopians, the Abyssinians?”
Lalit
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RELIGION NOT THE CRING NEED OF INDIA
20th September 1893

Christians must always be ready for good criticism and I hardly
think that you will mind if I make a little criticism- ou
Christians, who are so fond of sending out missionaries to save the
soul of the heathen – why do you not try to save their bodies from
starvation? In India, during the terrible famines, thousands died
from hunger, yet you Christians did nothing. ou erect churches
all through India, but the crying evil in the East is not religion
- they have religion enough -but it is bread that the suffering
millions of burning India cry out for with parched throats. They
ask us for bread, but we give them stones. It is an insult to the
starving people to offer them religion; it is an insult to the
starving man to teach him metaphysics. In India a priest that
preached for money would lose caste and be spat upon by the people.
I came here to seek aid for my impoverished people, and I filly
realized how difficult it was to get help for heathens from
Christians in a Christian land.[Swami Vivekananda]
nitha
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Famines inBritish India between 1765 and 1947 Year,Name of famine (if any),British territory [1]769–70Great Bengal Famine Bihar, Northern and Central Bengal10 million, (about one third of the then population of Bengal [2] 1783–84,Chalisa famine,Delhi, Western Oudh, Eastern Punjab region, Rajputana, and Kashmir Severe famine. Large areas were depopulated. Up to 11 million people may have died during the years 1782–84.
[3]1791–92 ,Doji bara famine or Skull famine Hyderabad, Southern Maratha country, Deccan, Gujarat, and Marwar One of the most severe famines known. People died in such numbers that they could not be cremated or buried. It is thought that 11 million people may have died during the years 1788–94 [4]1837–38 ,Agra famine of 1837–38,Central Doab and trans-Jumna districts of the North-Western Provinces (later Agra Province), including Delhi and Hissar800,000 [5]1860–61Upper Doab of Agra; Delhi and Hissar divisions of the Punjab,Eastern Rajputana,2 million [5]1865–67,Orissa famine of 1866,Orissa (also 1867) and Bihar; Bellary and Ganjam districts of Madras,1 million (814,469 in Orissa, 135,676 in Bihar and 10,898 in Ganjam)
[6]1868–70,Rajputana famine of 1869,Ajmer, Western Agra, Eastern Punjab,Rajputana,1.5 million (mostly in the princely states of Rajputana)
[7]1873–74,Bihar famine of 1873–74,Bihar,An extensive relief effort was organized by the Bengal government. [8]1876–78Great Famine of 1876–78 (also Southern India famine of 1876–78)Madras and BombayMysore and Hyderabad6.1 to 10.3 million [9]1888–89Ganjam, Orissa and North Bihar150,000 deaths [10]Ganjam. Deaths were due to starvation as famine relief was not provided in time.
[11]1896–97,Indian famine of 1896–97, Madras, Bombay Deccan, Bengal, United Provinces, Central Provinces,Northern and eastern Rajputana, parts of Central India and Hyderabad,5 million
[12]1899–1900,Indian famine of 1899–1900,Bombay, Central Provinces, Berar, Ajmer,Hyderabad, Rajputana, Central India, Baroda, Kathiawar, Cutch,1 million [13]1905–06,BombayBundelkhand,235,062 [14]1943–44,Bengal famine of 1943, Bengal,4.5 million
ravi
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Sakuntala: Texts, Readings, Histories (Anthem South Asian Studies 2001) edited by Romila Thapar contains an essay (including a translation of the story of Sakuntala from Srimad Bhagavata) by Dr Thapar (she benefitted from a Senior Fellowship at the Nehru Memorial Museum & Library to write the essay).

A note on the book cover explains: “The figure of Sakuntala appears in many forms throughout South Asian literature, most famously in the Mahabharata and in Kalidasa's fourth-century Sanskrit play, Sakuntala and the Ring of Recollection. In these two texts, Sakuntala undergoes a critical transformation, relinquishing her assertiveness and autonomy to become the quintessentially submissive woman, revealing much about the performance of Hindu femininity that would come to dominate South Asian culture. Through a careful analysis of sections from Sakuntala and their various iterations in different contexts, Romila Thapar explores the interactions between literature and history, culture and gender that frame the development of this canonical figure, as well as a distinct conception of female identity.”

In her essay Dr Thapar (hereafter Thapar)informs the reader that in the Mahabharata, the narrative of Sakuntala is told by Vaisampayana [sic; the diacritic below n is not needed] to Janamejaya, who in turn narrates it in the course of reciting the epic on the occasion of a major sacrificial ritual (p. 15).

Analyzing Thapar’s above essay, Dr Wagish Shukla (2005 2: 219-285; see details below) explains that his high school history teacher would have given zero marks for this information. The teacher would also have rebuked him for misleading the reader about a major piece of cultural data. For, a yajamana (patron who commissions a ritual; here Janamejaya) is not a narrator. He only receives or listens to a narrative. It is Sauti who would later narrate the story at another ritual.

Dr Shukla also suspects that Thapar has no mastery over Sanskrit and therefore has had to rely on a translation by Barbara Stoler-Miller (rather than consulting the original Sanskrit text) for her essay. Thus, following Stoler-Miller, Thapar uses “the king’s wife’s brother” to refer to the character of magistrate in the play but is not familiar with what he stands for in the rules and conventions of Sanskrit dramaturgy.

In his article that extends over 66 pages, Dr Shukla then goes on to furnish examples of methodological and substantial weaknesses and failures in Thapar’s study of Kalidasa and his masterpiece Abhijñanasakuntalam.

Reference: “Romila Thapar on Sakuntala” In Sanskrit Studies edited by Wagish Shukla, 2 219-285. New Delhi: D.K. Printworld (In association with Special Centre for Sanskrit studies, Jawaharlal Nehru University), 2005.

Shrinivas Tilak
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Thankyou Dr. Tilak

There has been a suggestion that someone should take on people like Romila Thapar. Dr. Shukla seems to be the ideal person. Indic scholars and historians can provide logistical support.
Dr.Vijaya Rajiva
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(1) Prof Wagish Shukla teaches mathematics at the IIT, Delhi. He is also Associate Chief Editor of the Encyclopedia of Indian Poetics, an ongoing project of the Sahitya Academy, New Delhi. His e-mail address is

(2) There is some discussion concerning who or what is Aryan. The following two verses from the Yoga vasishtha would be useful to consider:

Kartavyam acharan karmam; akartavyam anacharan
Tishthati prakritachari yah sa arya iti smritah// Yogavasishtha 6:54

He/she who diligently performs the duties prescribed [by dharma] and refrains from deeds that are proscribed is known [remembered] as Arya.

Arya therefore is an ethical term; not racial as it is often understood.

Udeti yogayuktanam atra kevalam aryata; Ya drishtva mudha buddhinam abhyudeti mumukshata // Yogavasishtha 6:55

Those who are engaged in the practice of yoga witness a [gradual]
awakening of the nobility in one's character (aryata). With aryata, even the dull witted are moved to seek spiritual liberation.

Shrinivas Tilak
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